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Alves Grabs The Ball And A Landmark

Posted by on October 30, 2008 8:58 AM | 

BORO'S Brazilian out-shone Robinho as he nailed his place in the history books. Afonso Alves - a comparative cut-price signing at just £12.7m - took charge in a moment of collective hesitation over the penalty and shrugged off the claims of regular taker Stewart Downing and eager beaver Tuncay to grab the ball and stroke home a delightful spot-kick. It was Boro's 6,000th league goal.

It would have been nice had the landmark goal gone to a local lad but had Stewie stepped up would he have scored? And what would have been the impact on his seemingly fragile confidence and popular support if he had missed it?

It was a cracking penalty and that naturally raised the question of where we would be now if Alves had been taking them from the off. The Stoke match would have been wrapped up far earlier and the Sunderland game would almost certainly have been won. Boro would have been three points better off now and without the post-Mackem dip in morale the outlook may now have been far sunnier.

It was nice to see Alves be assertive over the penalty, although the potential was always there for a repeat of the Bernie Slaven scenario where he wrestled the ball off Gary Parkinson against Ipswich then missed! His hunger for the ball and willingness to accept the pressure that comes from the spot suggests his own confidence is flooding back after his excellent strike at Blackburn.

The goal was the 6,000th in the league. In a perfect world the milestone would have been Tuncay's perfectly good - nay, fantastic - overhead kick at Blackburn, although if we go down that route we could be here for some time quibbling over football's equivalent of quantum physics and chaos theory. Whatever, that makes Alves an indelible part of our club's long history. Or at the very least, the answer to a question in the Gazette's Christmas quiz.

The land-marks up to now:

The 1st league goal: Bob Page in a 3-1 defeat at Burslam Port Vale in division two on Sept 4 1899

1,000th: Andy Wilson, as part of a hat-trick in a 3-2 division one home win over West Brom on Sept 3, 1921.

2,000th: Bob Baxter, a consolation in a 4-2 division one away defeat at Birmingham on February 6, 1935

3,000th: Billy Day, the opener in a 2-1 division two reverse at Rotherham on April 3, 1956

4,000th: Willie Maddren in a 3-2 division two home defeat to Bury on April 12, 1969

5,000th: Bernard Joseph Slaven, the opener in a 1-1 top flight draw at Wimbledon on March 25, 1989.

Briefly on the game.... academy lad Wheater had Robinho in his pocket... it may or may not have been a penalty but hey, we were due a break... Tuncay is brilliant and it is no coincidence that Boro's dip in form and results have come when the Turk has been sidelined. He is the one that links the forward movement of the midfield with the front man, the one who drops deep to pick up passes, makes magical runs that pull defences apart for Alves or Aliadiere to burst through, who does the unpredictable but allies it to prodigious work-rate; he is the main man. Who needs Juninho?... Ross Turnbull continues to grow in stature and confidence and has the priceless, uncoachable asset of a little bit of luck... cracking atmosphere at times... some comedy refereeing that stoked the temperature up... excellent displays by the often derided midfield dynamo Gary O'Neil and Jeremie Aliadiere... a renewed discipline and solidity at the back... a risky decision to give Julio Arca a run out that led to a laughable first five minutes before he played two sublime balls... and how good is it to score a goal deep, deep, deep into stoppage time?




5,000 goal was scored by Bernie Slaven

Comments (13)

Forever Dormo wrote...

AV - no posts on here because your software keeps rejecting them? I tried three times last night to send a post but gave up. Let's see if this fares any better! (I wouldn't mind but I agreed with ALMOST everything you said in your piece, so I guess it isn't just censorship that's going on here).

**AV writes: Yes, we were down while some geeky blokes were in to iron out a few persistent bugs. Then when they came to put it all back together a few wires were in the wrong place and some posts for here were popping up on the Gazette Local TS23 site. God knows what the WI bloggers there will make of Beamish Boro and TB.

Posted by: Forever Dormo  | October 31, 2008 12:20 PM

'Ignorant' of boroland wrote...

Is my first post gonna turn up on here or what ?

Probably not. I've looked down the back of the settee and everywhere. I think everything is working normally now *crosses fingers*

Posted by: 'Ignorant' of boroland  | October 31, 2008 12:26 PM

Aberdeen Brian wrote...

A late goal against Wigan, another late goal against Man City, now if we can only stop conceding them late ourselves (a la Blackburn - again!) we might just be able to get a grip of the season and push on.

Mind you I'd rather not have to rely on last-gasp goals to win the points. I'll settle for a hat-trick from Alves or Mido each game, with a couple of goals from the others to build up the goal difference - damn! the alarm clock has just gone off, oh well it was nice for a time there!

Posted by: Aberdeen Brian  | October 31, 2008 12:54 PM

Ian Gill wrote...

AV

I got something saying the wrong text used. But I will post this as in Gates terminology 'hope than expectation'.

Interesting the two different slants on the next match.

We have Downing's musn't waste chance to push for Europe rhetoric - I text that to John Powls but he didnt read it until he got to Boro or he might have had an unscheduled diversion to Mount Grace Priory.

Then we have Gates more measured style. In the back of my mind niggles the thought that he may be more Eeyore than Churchill in his oratory and I wonder if he sometimes takes the edge off the players.

Tomorrow lets up the performance level again and actually dominate the game. The Ammers were very narrow against ManU and were ripped open down the flanks. With our Turkish Delight wreaking havoc it must be time For Aliadiere and Downing to torture the defence.

Posted by: Ian Gill  | October 31, 2008 4:40 PM

Keith R wrote...

Another knock n Juninh...You say who needs Juninho? Well Alves would easily get 20 goals+ if we had Juninho of 96 in the team

Posted by: Keith R  | October 31, 2008 5:58 PM

Holgate Ender wrote...

So are we back on then? Agree with most you say about Man City game. Functional rather than flash but encouraging.

I would rather it had been a local lad got the 6000 goal but glad Stewy didn't take the pen because the risk of missing again would be too high. Then again Alves should have had the job from the day he arrived.

Having Tuncay back has made a massive difference. He brings the best out of a lot of the others who looked poor while he was out (Alves, Ali to name but two)

Posted by: Holgate Ender  | October 31, 2008 6:05 PM

Benny Brown wrote...

You may not need Juninho Anthony, but you do need a Spell Checker. Sorry for the jibe Anthony, I still enjoy your column.You were 100% correct in your call for Alves to take all the spot kicks. A perfect penalty hit with power and s accuracy. I will not worry in future penalty situations if Alves is playing.

**AV writes: I'm blaming it on a bgu in the software.

Posted by: Benny Brown  | October 31, 2008 6:17 PM

dannymfc13 wrote...

really top-notch writing av. it was great to see expensive robinho get sorted out by local boy wheater, it was great to watch :)

look at this facebook link to a group about emanuel pogatetz, it is so funny and really good


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Posted by: dannymfc13  | October 31, 2008 10:26 PM

Ian Morton wrote...

Well, well, well.

Makes me feel old, but I was there for goals 4,000 and 5,000 (or almost). I was behind the goal in the old 6/6 at Ayresome for Maddren's goal. I think he was a youngster playing up front at the end of the season against an already relegated team. Stan Anderson put out an 'experimental' line up even though I believe we still had a mathematical chance of promotion.

The Slaven goal (5,000) was really early on at Plough Lane and I kind of saw it from outside the ground. I remember their equaliser was from a cross from our young friend Dennis Wise - not sure who scored it tho - Fashanu??

Goal 3,000 I wasn't yet born and when goal 2,000 was scored my Dad was 5.

Posted by: Ian Morton  | October 31, 2008 11:21 PM

Neil (Korea ex Yarm) wrote...

I've not posted anywhere on a Boro site for a while until I broke cover to thank Richard for his Southgate/Lamby telecon over Becks on the Boro Banter page, it cheered me up, and so did Wednesdays's 3 points.

The milestone goals bring back lots of grat memories, although like Ian Morton I can only remember witnessing 4000 & 5000 before Alves.

For me there was one other significant milestone on Wednesday night; the substitution of Downing, albeit with only 7 minutes remaining.

Stewy's form has dipped of late and he is no longer the threat he was, albeit he stills gets the odd teasing cross into the box. The lad's confidence appears to have deserted him, do you think it's time to rest him and give Johnson/Emnes a shot?

On the game itself, and from what I witnessed on the usual MoTD 30 second slot (although at least we weren't last this time), we could have been dead and buried before the pen but for the brilliance of Turnbull. But 3 points is 3 points as Ian Gill often says, it still said 2-0 in the morning papers.

Our midfield is weak when being attacked, and there is little creativity directly unless you count Tuncay's obvious contribution. We only have Arca who we can call "creative" and he is far from being fit & match ready, so there is no immediate solution to the problem. JP's 4-1-4-1 formation suggestion in Boro Banter holds a lot of merits in our current situation.

The Guardian sports reporter called us "workmanlike", which is a little unfair I reckon, but probably because we often look laboured against teams with more skillful players in some areas, particularly the middle.

I'd like to think we can get 3 points off the Hammers on Saturday too; they looked ordinary against ManUre the other night, but there again who outside of the top 4 wouldn't.

Posted by: Neil (Korea ex Yarm)  | November 1, 2008 12:41 AM

Malc wrote...

ere's a topic for you, Vic: the Childish Spoilt Brat Attitude of Managers.

Mark Hughes was a whinging, nasty sod hwen he played and of course he's carried that joylessness over into management. Didn't say a nice word about Boro and just blamed it all on the ref.

Contrast with Gareth who graciously accepts defeat and genuinely means it when he says, "things even out over the season."

And to think the class-warriors at the Boro prefer another malcontent, Roy Keane. You'll never please the discontent woking classes it seems when there's a polite middle class guy at the helm. Our club will stay small with the kind of "chip on the shoulder" attitude shared by Hughes, Keane and oh too many Boro supporters.

Posted by: Malc  | November 1, 2008 2:19 AM

Mal from Ingleby wrote...

Great finish to the Man City game and a great great result, but we had a torrid time in the first 30 minutes when they looked so impressive.

I see the 'now for Europe' optimism is back and whilst I'm all for optimism I think Europe's very unlikely. I don't expect Spurs to stay down there for much longer and the Mags usually pull out of trouble, although we can hope.

The main point of my post is regarding foreign money in the prem. More and more clubs are gaining access to this and the clubs we used to vye with for league position like Villa, Spurs, Portsmouth, City, West Ham etc have taken a step up.

This is leaving fewer and fewer teams who we can genuinely expect to finish above. If the trend continues we could find ourselves increasingly marginalised and carried to it's ultimate conclusion finally 'forced' down to the championship.

Phil Garside the Bolton chairman seems to have similar fears when he made the novel suggestion that we should have a prem without relegation.

I'm NOT suggesting that we should go the same way as other clubs with foreign ownership although I am a bit surprised to hear from Keith Lamb that no one has even enquired. I want Steve Gibson (God bless him) to stay in charge but the situation does worry me.

Maybe it's time for one of the 'big debt' clubs to really catch a cold and go into liquidation, get a 10 point reduction and wake up the rest. This could lead to a much more level playing field and our prospects would improve.

There are some signs of this right now with West Ham (who should've been forcibly relegated a couple of seasons ago anyway, we would have been), the Americans at Man U and Liverpool, and the geordies if Ashley can't sell. Or Blatter may come in with some ceiling on debt for clubs such as exists in the Bundesliega. Either way I think something has to give.

On the Juninho debate the prospect of a final appearance in a Boro shirt in a friendly sounds good to me, maybe the proceeds could go to a local charity. But I think that should be an end to the affair. Juninho MAY be the best player we've ever had, he DOES care for the club and the fans, but he DID leave just when we needed him most (I know he wasn't the only one, BUT). He moved on, we HAD to move on, so let's leave it at that.

Now lets give West Ham more to worry about.

Posted by: Mal from Ingleby  | November 1, 2008 9:44 AM

Redcar Red wrote...

Goal 7,000 will be circa 2027! I wonder how many of us will be around to see it?

Terrific result midweek it was a massive make or break game for us. Defeat would have left us in the wrong half licking our wounds and extremely nervous. Victory meant that we are now in the 2nd division of the Premiership and set up nicely with a home game against the struggling Hammers where 3 points would put us at the top (or thereabouts depending upon other results) of the chasing pack.

Just hope that we don't do a typical Boro and hand the Hammers an end to their winless streak. We are normally very benevolent to these teams needing to end a record, they have lost four on the trot have scored 1 and conceded 8. Lets hope that we are in a ruthless state of mind when we run out onto the pitch at 3.00pm.

Looks like Turnbull is going to prove us all wrong and Gareth right. His performances (Chelsea apart, where the entire squad including the tea lady was crap) look to be moving in the right direction and I'm noticing an aura of confidence from him which is a far cry from last season. Fair play to the lad and more of the same please!

Posted by: Redcar Red  | November 1, 2008 10:04 AM

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