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Battling Boro's Restorative Remedy

Posted by on March 15, 2008 5:08 PM | 

GUTTED! TYPICAL Boro! For the second time in a week. But this time there is a warm glow because battling Boro put in restorative display of united, organised, determined physicality at the Emirates Stadium and came within five minutes of completing a famous double over awesome Arsenal, the kings of over-elaboration.

It was a brilliant display of robust defending to claw to bonus point that few would have budgeted for when things looked so bleak in the debris of broken dreams after Cardiff. It may not be compensation for that sickening epoch-defining surrender - indeed, some may think it really rubs it in - but it is step towards some kind of collective rehabilitation.

I got back very late: the players usually come out quickly after an away game because they want to be on the coach and watching rap videos on their Ipods sharpish but they were flying home so this time took an age, warming down and eating nutritionally balanced snacks. As a result the Gazette posse were certs to miss the last train out of that one horse town with terrible transport links and had to peg it after Ally Brownlee and Bernie Slaven to blag a lift home. Arsenal weren't the only ones saved at the death from disaster in North London.

Anyway, that means I never got to knock my thoughts into shape on the train so here's the notes I was banging out as we went along yesterday....

THE ARSENAL experience is the future of football reporting. Airport style check-in desks, friendly staff, spacious press lounge, dedicated desks, a restaurant with selection of mouth-watering hot and cold food (there were fruits there so exotic that even working together we couldn't identify them), Ben and Jerry's ice-cream and a free bar, which naturally being consummate professionals we declined. The press box is easily accessible, has good sight-lines and each place has comfy padded seats and a quality TV monitor. The lay-out and organisation was incredible. And do you ever see a bad word in the press about Arsenal? A lesson to be learned there for the soup-and-a-bun kiosk functionalism of the Riverside I think.

Before the game Eduardo tottered out on his crutches to be awarded the player of the month award for January to a massive standing ovation. He raises and waves one crutch in salute ... for Christ sake, don't fall over. That's the last thing you need. The thought flashes up that it might be the last time he is on the Emirates pitch. I hope not.

That mascot... what the? Gunnasaurus? A green dinosaur? Was North London home to roaming herds of primeval herds of these things? Is there something in the history of the club that gives them an affinity with 20 ton goofy herbivores? And you thought Captain Microwave looked daft.

Their Mark Page presents the team Bundesliga style, forenames only and the crowd respond with a roar to fill in the gaps. It's an excellent idea that demands a reaction from the crowd but if we tried it at the Riverside it would be an invitation to insert expletives. Boro's team are reeled off and it raises barely a ripple let alone a boo. Even Aliadiere gets only an almost imperceptible acknowledgement: "he's only a footnote for them," a colleague assesses correctly.

This a brilliant stadium. Everything about it is on a grand scale, from the sweeping visionary curves of the stands to the wide open piazzas and walkways that surround the ground. Despite being new - maybe because of that - an opulent sense of history permeates through the pores of the building: the upper balcony is decorated with symbols and years of trophies won in the manner of a WW2 fighter plane and the size of the silverware selection is underlined by the fact that that they are fast running out of room. The electronic hoardings are given over not just to money making adverts from Globalmegacorps Inc but also to vaguely totalitarian blipvert slogans: "Strive for History", "Harmony in Arsenal"... I half expected Arsenesque Orwellian contradictions to pop up like "Vision Through Myopia."

The Boro fans are tucked tucked in a little pocket of the bottom tier to Schwarzer's right. As they host team and fans are wearing red it is a struggle to spot them among the Arsenal crowd but as soon as th game kicks off you can hear them, maybe 1,500 making themselves bigger with passion.

Boro are under the cosh in the opening spell and there is some frantic, scrappy defending on the edge of their own 18 yard with the occasional quick break forward at pace. After just four minutes Boateng puts a tackle in on van Persie and sends the ball squirting towards Boro's box and Adebayor breaks through to slot home but the flag goes up - presumably the officials thought van Persie had pushed the ball forward but it was the Boro man so the goal should have stood and we have a lucky break in the first big refereeing decision of the day.

There is a scare as an in-swinging cross from van persie wide on the right curls towards the far top corner but clips the bar. The robust nature of the game is shown as Robert Huth sends Flamini sprawling in the box with a neck hold and forearm whip throw that Kendo Nagasaki wold be proud of, then Eboue is crunched and needs treatment after a shoulder charge from Shawky.

Boro sting the Arsenal crowd into anger then stun them into silence on 25 minutes as Boateng single-handedly roughs up Eboue and Sagna on the touchline but somehow comes away with the free-kick which Schwarzer quickly pumps down he left for Tuncay to chase, control and whip across the face of goal for Jeremie Aliadiere to steam in unmarked and stab home the almost pre-destined goal that had 'inevitable strike from returning former player, why couldn't he do that when he was here?' stamped all over it.

That fired Arsenal up. The crowd woke up and started screamingly impatiently and the team played with more urgency and there some close calls as they started to get into the box before falling over. First Sagna carved through then went jelly legged and flopped over as the ball ran away from him to screams for a penalty. Soon after Eboue cut in to the box and again took a tumble as he lost out in a tussle with Pogatetz. Then there was a furious cry for handball as Young charged a shot down on the edge of the box and it whacked into his ribs.

There is a worrying little echo of Wednesday at Villa Park where a sizeable and vocally tetchy crowd, nervous at being behnd, started appealing on masse for everything in and around the box and there is a nagging fear laced with paranoia and a dark hint of conspiracism that sooner or later they will get something against a team that seems to be at odds with refs right now.

It was all hands to the pumps on the edge of the box. Boateng and O'Neil and putting in some incredible workrate. Luke Young puts in a superb tackle on van Persie then Huth rattles Adabayor in the box and there is another scream for a penalty as Young puts in an awesome text book last gasp tackle from behind on van Persie. Again, a low ball is drilled in and Young blocks it and the crowd - inspired by Steve Bennett (fourth official today) and his liberal approach to anatomy on Wednesday - again scream and point to the spot. Mark Halsey waves play on and is taunted with chants of 'you're not fit to referee' and you can sense the pressure on the man in black being cranked up by the minute.

The ref waves away handball calls, a blatant offside is missed and suddenly the big club gets a taste of what the little clubs seem to get every week. The apoplectic Arsenal fans think Alex Ferguson is in the middle and scream bile as the whistle goes for - back down in the press room the phrasing is calm and more articulate but the sentiment is the same except for the North-east contingent sat beaming and laughing and happily munching away.

At the break Cattermole comes on for Shawky and takes about two minutes to put in his first foul after two minutes. Arsenal pile on the pressure. Boro break away as Tuncay weaves down the let and shows great strength to hold off Eboue's grappling, physical ten yard embrace that appears to have seeped through from the Six nations egg-chasing before finally winning a foul.

Boro's workrate is staggering and seems unsustainable. Every player is battling back, flying into tackles, throwing their body in the way to block shots and cut out crosses. There are more hoofs flying than the Gold Cup as Arsenal pump the ball in and Boro hammer it away while Tuncay has run non-stop to offer an outlet over the top. Arsenal bring on Bendtner and Walcott to add to the frantic all out attack. The pressure - and my heart rate - continues to mount.

Yet, incredibly, Boro are still getting all the decisions: a couple of robust tackles are ignored but Boateng is barged and goes down easily and gets a free-kick then a blatant hand-ball by Tuncay prompts a massive shout from the crowd but is waved away. The Arsenal crowd are not baying now - they are more sullen and nail-bitingly shrouded and in the vacuum all you can hear is the defiant Boro travelling army in noisy jubilation.

Bendtner heads over a few times then Fabregas breaks through but Schwarzer spreads himself and blocks the low effort with and outstretched leg. Boro bring on fit again full-back Andrew Taylor to add pace to a flagging back line and take off knackered Tuncay. An Adebayor shot fizzes wide. A Fabregas header bounces through and clips the post. Can we keep on soaking up this incessant barrage to claim a famous double and a huge step towards safety?

Someone watching at home on Setanta texts in to say Arsenal have had 78% of the possession - but Boro have had 78% of the decisions, all the luck and are busting a collective gut to make sure it stays that way.

Mido comes on for drained Aliadiere - to immediate boos for the 'Tottenham reject'. Wenger is livid, stomping foaming mouthed round the technical area and screaming with the bong-eyed, red-faced contortions of a candidate for spontaneous human combustion that belie his media reputation as a calm, collected football intellectual. It is very funny.

Then, with one hand on a famous victory Arsenal spawn a leveller on 86 minutes as they get a decision their way - an Arsenal handball goes unseen and they win a corner that shouldn't be - then when the flagkick sails into the box Toure puts in a ten yard header that hits Taylor on the line then squeezes against Flamini and squirts past Schwarzer and spins away and bounces in off the post. What a sickener. Especially for poor Tayls. He comes back, gets in the way of his keeper to set up a chaotic leveller and has possibly cost Boro a famous victory.

Two minutes late the pendulum swings further against Boro as Mido is sent off for catching Clichy as he went flying in to challenge for a high ball. There was no intent, he was just focussed on the ball and it was there to go for but his studs were right up there and in the current climate there is no surprise he got the red. What is a surprise is that Clichy needs six paramedics, two stretchers, an oxygen tent and police on the pitch putting out the cones and the stripey plastic ribbon to denote a crime scene. Come on. I know they are a bit touchy after Eduardo but this is ridiculous. Wenger is going crazy. He saw that one.

Stoppage time and what feels like a dozen corners are scythed clear, there are two furious scrambles, Arsenal put one into the side netting and then there is a bit of a toe-to-toe barney in which there is an explosion of irony and cool headed Catts of all people wades in as the voice of reason to calm Poggy down and drag him away. Amid the confusion the whistle goes.

Boro have earned a fantastic point but will be gutted it is not three. Boro are unbeaten against Arsenal under Southgate and have lost just one in six in the league against the Gunners (although it was a seven goal battering, so best not bring that one up).

Afterwards, as we leave Mido looks at us and shrugs bemused. "Was it a red card? No. I should not be sent off. You write that in the paper", he says, animated. "He went down like he had been murdered" says Adam Steel. "No, I have been murdered. Write that."

And with that we raced off into the night in hot pursuit of Ally and Bernie.


Comments (60)

John Powls wrote...

AV

I know that I wrote my last as though we'd won. Sorry, slightly carried away. But it doesn't change the main message about next week.

By the way, The Emirates is every bit as good for the paying spectator as it is for the journos.

Posted by: John Powls  | March 16, 2008 1:40 PM

Owld Bert from the Western wrote...

Luke Young's giving away a penalty was a diabolical decision. Having said that, Adebayors disallowed offside goal was equally diabolical so all in all Ian Gills assessment that 2 points is OK from those away games is fair enough.

What is worrying though is how officials are regularly making such shocking decisions even when they are right next to the incidents.

Posted by: Owld Bert from the Western  | March 16, 2008 2:27 PM

'Ignorant' of Boroland wrote...

Next season in the prem could be good if we buy a speedy attacking midfielder to get up with the strikers and score goals.

I think Boat, Rocky and O'Neil all do a similar job and do it well. Arca seemss out of favour with me at the mo and I need to see more of Shawky.

Next season with Alves up to speed and Mido fit and slim [ haircut wouldnt go a miss either] we should take some of these chances we are missing.

The Mido sending off made no difference to our game at Arsenal as he is still not fit and should get his act together and stay out of the pie shop during this latest ban as I think he owes us a performance. Being a gobby blobby bloke in a Boro shirt is not enough as I can do that for nowt!

When I went mad at the sending off of Aliadiere on here some people came on and slated me saying stuff about him not being a goal scorer etc.

I dont have to defend him as he is proving I am not the only one on here who is 'Ignorant'

What say you AV on the Frenchman Alladin?

**AV writes: I really rate him. His explosive pace rips holes in defences for others to exploit. Look at the Wigan game, and Arsenal at home (it is not just against poor sides). The key for Boro is getting the right people in place to exploit it.

Posted by: 'Ignorant' of Boroland  | March 16, 2008 6:05 PM

tony black wrote...

Much, much better. Now let's keep it going and going.

Two points from these two games is a good, good result and with different refs it really could have and should have been 6.

Well done. Now lets really kick on and move away from the others points wise so that we end all the relegation talk and look to the furture.

GREAT !

TB

Posted by: tony black  | March 16, 2008 6:06 PM

Ray Porter wrote...

We are turning so many corners that I am getting dizzy.

My mate, able to get there, tells me the Boro fans at Aston Villa were outstanding in their support of the boys.

Yesterday we had to watch the Arsenal game via Setanta at my Local, and the noise THERE was pretty loud, too. Despite the size of the Emirates' crowd, we could hear the "Come on Boros" etc.

For our part the noise that followed Boro's goal seemed more likely to damage the integrity of the building than the recent earthquake and every tackle, every blocked shot and (for a change) most of the decisions of the referee were greeted with cheers and clapping.

We will ignore the failure to spot the obvious foul on George which gave rise to a corner and their goal, because we appear to have taken a decision not to criticse the ref at Middlesbrough.....

Denman at Cheltenham, two away points from games the pundits had as home bankers (even if, being greedy, we might have had 6), Wales winning the Grand Slam, Hamilton doing his stuff in Australia and a good position in the 2nd Test in New Zealand we should win in a few hours time - the cup is now much more than half full than half empty.

A nice rump steak to come this evening and I am saving a double page spread in "The Observer" to read later ("Messiah has to save Himself" - when KK returned to St James' Park in January... Newcastle were halfway up the table....) so things are looking rosy.

Shawky and George, and Catts in the second half, gave us what we needed in the middle. Aliadiere showed us what we had been missing up front, and the whole team sweated commitment from start to finish.

Even if we had lost, nobody would have grumbled at our performance, because the players gave their all. That commitment is what the supporters want to see in all games, against all (even lower) opposition.

If we show the same effort against Derby, I predict a delirious crowd and no shortage of players for the Press to interview after the next home game. Do you remember Harold Wilson saying "A week is a long time in politics"? It must seem like a lifetime in football.

Posted by: Ray Porter  | March 16, 2008 7:34 PM

Nigel wrote...

Last Sunday I couldn't have imagined sitting here posting that we could have won our two away games against Villa & the Gunners.

Lots of praise for GS for turning the team round in a couple of days, what he has to do now is make sure we play with the same commitment against Derby.

If we do they'll be shredded, if not we'll just have to go and beat Chelski or Man Utd. Derby isnt a must win or a six pointer, but winning next saturday will make the end of the season a lot more comfortable.

Posted by: Nigel  | March 16, 2008 10:48 PM

DAVE CONNOR wrote...

Hello AV:

Your posting has just comeup on the website over here.

I and many other watched the game in the pub over here and we saw the goal from many different angles and I am sorry to say (in my opinion and that of everyone else in the pub) that the keeper was badly at fault with his positioning.

I also text my brother in the BORO and everyone watching in the BUCCANEER said the same Schwatzer to blame for the goal.

Posted by: DAVE CONNOR  | March 17, 2008 5:32 AM

Ian Gill wrote...

A chance to mull over the events of the last week.

I have ensured that the carpets in the Gill household are firmly held down by grippers, carpet tape etc so that no one can sweep the Cardiff performance under the carpets in my residence. The abject nature of the performance can not be erased.

But I am delighted with the last two games, would have loved the extra points but they were performances full of character. Lets go at Derby with the same attitude and committment and the result will look after itself.

So we have another red card that was judged a bit harsh even by Wenger, will the club have a word with Mark Halsey and see if he will review it?

This is, after all, the ref who reversed a penalty against Arsenal in the past because thir appeal showed such conviction. Maybe Gate should ask him to think of us as a top four side. No, cant see it happening.

What the red card did mask was the sheer physical effort of getting Midough's leg that high (I wish I had thought of Midough because Midriff isnt half as good). He did the same at Villa so he must assess what he is doing, it could be because he is not fully fit yet so is struggling to get to the ball.

We are now into the part of the season where we decide which result suits us best. A defeat for Fulham and a draw between Bolton and Wigan might have been better. But Fulham play most of the teams around us and for them to escape will drag others back in. And whilst Wigans win takes them above us it pushes Bolton further into the mire.

We will all be agog at the Brum-Toon match, just cant work out the best result for us, possibly a draw again but I'd love it, just love it.....

Finally my sundry Derby mates are talking about going up, I am weakening but I have a bathroom to decorate and I have already stated my position.

Posted by: Ian Gill  | March 17, 2008 9:30 AM

mark j wrote...

Cheers for a great read AV. Loved the Eduardo crutch wave/potential disaster and the mention of Kendo Nagasaki who now drives a van for me up and down the M1.

I agree with you on the amount of jelly legs from the gooners once they got in our box, some of it was in a 'Big night out style'- Vic I've fallen.

Great performances all over the pitch from our lads [ Mido Hmmmm? get fit soon] I think Wenger missed a trick and gave us a chance by putting on an unfit Van Percy instead of putting Theo walcott in the team.

With 20 mins to go all the paramedics didnt spot that Wenger had a hardboiled egg stuck in his wind pipe as he danced around his little area in a conga/breakdance style.

Nevermind....

Posted by: mark j  | March 17, 2008 10:01 AM

Andy (Hants) wrote...

For the second game on the trot we show tremendous workrate, determination and a willingness to put bodies on the line. That performance, the 3rd (no perhaps only the 2nd!) in 6 days deserves a lot of credit.

The difference for the Derby game will be that we cannot play on the break but will need to get at them from the off and break them down, creating chances against a defensive-minded team and packed defence.

We have struggled with this in the past but need to play without fear. We are now 6 points away from the drop and in a stronger position than this time last week.

One final point; to pick out a single player for blame given the efforts of the team on Saturday shows a level of churlishness seldom witnessed on this forum.

Schwarzer can do no right in your eyes; same old blah, blah, blah. As Al Murray would say, "shame on you"!

Posted by: Andy (Hants)  | March 17, 2008 10:53 AM

'Ignorant' of boroland wrote...

Gilly , Forget the bathroom decorating and get yersel to the Riverside old boy!

The chance to see Tuncay and Alladin up front again with Downing having a go on the left and Huth and Wheats at the back and the non stop work of Luke Young, Go for it , you know you want to!

No pain no gain.

Posted by: 'Ignorant' of boroland  | March 17, 2008 11:03 AM

Neil (Baku) wrote...

The Alamo JW called it and that's what it felt like at times.

Backs to the wall stuff, but I was little surprised at Tuncay coming off and Southgate trying to stitch the game so early.

In my opinion it made matters worse because at least Tuncay was giving their defenders something to think about.

Instead we created a back 10, we couldn't get out of own half or get the ball back for more than a few seconds at a time. It was almost inevitable that Arsenal would get a break.

But even then I can't help thinking that Schwarz should have been a little Schmichael-esque and wiped out Taylor to make the save.

But a good point all the same, not many will take 4 points off Arsenal this season.

Posted by: Neil (Baku)  | March 17, 2008 11:04 AM

Richard wrote...

An indicator that Boro’s performance against Arsenal is being acknowledged to be very good (despite any press or other media reports casting doubts on Arsenal’s current abilities) was the inclusion of Boateng and Pogatetz in Garth Crooks’s “Team of the Week” on the BBC Sports website. Additionally, he had Huth, Wheeter, Young and Sanli all selected as candidates for selection.

Although how Jeremie Alliadiere was left out when he was the top rated player in the same website post-match poll eludes me. Not that it matters much.

To have six players nominated in 1 week, is a feat only usually and occasionally emulated by “the cream”.

Well done to all Boro players who would appear to be playing for the manager, the shirt and for each other. If they continue to do that, they’ll be doing it for the supporters as well, by default!

Two big points last week. But there are three even bigger ones on Saturday! Let’s hope Gareth makes sure the mental preparation is right. We KNOW they can do it physically – no question!

Posted by: Richard  | March 17, 2008 11:27 AM

SpikeArmstrong wrote...

AV whats your thoughts about KL putting in a cheeky little appeal for the Mido sending off ?

Just for a laugh see how the FA deal with it, There was no intent (I mean its not as if he slapped him) and if high feet are now a sending off offence surly it deems overhead kicks illegal ! Theres a full can of worms just waiting....

Posted by: SpikeArmstrong  | March 17, 2008 11:50 AM

Ian Gill wrote...

Ignorant

I must admit boro are like alcohol, easy to give up - I have done it thousands of times. I am wavering and am receiving withering looks at home, she knows whats happening when I am being especially helpful.

Poor old Swarz, give it another couple of days and it will be his fault for not getting past 10 Boro defenders to dive at Whittinghams feet to stop Cardiff going 1-0 up.

And why he left that chance to Mido at Villa to put us 2-0 up is beyond me. And he served on the panel that gave Aliadiere an extra match ban.

At least some things in life remain constant.

Posted by: Ian Gill  | March 17, 2008 12:00 PM

Ian Gill wrote...

Ignorant

I must admit boro are like alcohol, easy to give - I have done it thousands of times. I am wavering and am receiving withering looks at home, she knows whats happening when I am being especially helpful.

Poor old Swarz, give it another couple of days and it will be his fault for not getting past 10 Boro defenders to dive at Whittinghams feet to stop cardiff going 1-0 up. And why he left that chance to Mido at Villa to put us 2-0 up is beyond me. And he served on the panel that gave Aliadiere an extra match ban.

At least some things in life remain constant.

Posted by: Ian Gill  | March 17, 2008 12:34 PM

Never Happy wrote...

Really good performance on Saturday, Tuncay is pure class, make Huth captain.

Could not get to excited as I am still gutted over the Cardiff game.

Surely Derby is the perfect game to play 4 - 3 - 3

Young
Wheater
Huth
Pogo
O'Neill
Boat
Downing
Aliadiare
Alves
Tuncay

Get at them from the start, dictate the game and play with the same effort and passion as we did against Villa and Arsenal.

After the weekend's fixtures I think 37 points will be enough to stay up this season. Boro must make certain that they get 3 points on Saturday.

C'Mon Boro!

Posted by: Never Happy  | March 17, 2008 12:48 PM

Andy (Hants) wrote...

Ian, are you being serious? You're not going to the match just because the Boro did the equivalent of your loved one kicking you in the conkers and then head- butting you before you hit the floor?

A real Boro fan would merely say "ouch that was a little uncalled for darling, but I know you love me". Avocado suites are still in, its fine, trust me. Go on son, get yourself to the game; you know you want to!

Posted by: Andy (Hants)  | March 17, 2008 1:11 PM

Block2 wrote...

HI all,

Last weekend, all been forgot about?

Some how I don't think so. Last 2 results will not see extra bums on seats against Derby....Seasons over.

Would of been nice next season: full house, FA CUP winners and in Europe again....like me Dad always says "Dream ON".

R&R

Block2

Posted by: Block2  | March 17, 2008 1:40 PM

jiffy wrote...

Sorry but who gives a toss about Premier League games? There are 38 of those every season and 46 in a genuinely honest league.

There is just one FA Cup final appearance in 132 years - and it should have been two!

AV:

If you press boys enjoy the hospitality at the big boys' grounds so much then how do you think the ref's feel about theirs? And you wonder why it never seems to be a level playing surface!

Posted by: jiffy  | March 17, 2008 1:53 PM

james emmerson wrote...

Don't know if anyone else has noticed - and I hate to be the killjoy after the encouragements of Weds & Sat - but:

If Boro had beaten Reading, and assuming we beat Derby, that would make it six points in March. As it is, two points from Villa & Arsenal, and an assumptive three from Derby, equals five points (which in turn assumes we get nothing from Chelsea, a fair bet given our recent and not-so recent history there).

In other words, for all the positive aspects of playing so well, we are still likely to be worse off points wise with two good performances, two draws, and a win than with two wins & three losses, and therefore sweating on other teams results more than necessary - especially as our first game in April is Man U at home.

And also, for all the good things about taking a point from Arsenal, and the magnificent commitment, concentration, etc that the team displayed, am I alone in wondering why we didn't take the game to them more?

I mean, we took the lead at Villa, continued to pressurise, and could/should have had more goals. But that's two seasons in a row at Arsenal where we've had one shot, taken the lead, and then put ten behind the ball and tried to cling on. On both occasions we conceded.

Not trying to undermine the team in the two games they've just played but I wonder why we do this?

Posted by: james emmerson  | March 17, 2008 2:14 PM

paul wrote...

C,mon lads, no performance from now till the end of the season will suffice. We have blown the best chance to get back into Europe. We have very little chance of reaching the top 7 next season. What a wasted chance against cardiff.

Posted by: paul  | March 17, 2008 3:48 PM

Never Happy wrote...

for those who are panicking over Boro still being relegated, how many points do you think that Bolton and Fulham are going to end up with?

Bolton who have won 6 games this season (26 points) have still to play:

Man U (a)
Man C (h)
Arsenal (h)
Villa (a)
WHU (h)
Boro (a)
Spurs (a)
S'land (h)
Chelsea (a)

Fulham who have won 4 games this season (23 points) have still to play:

Newcastle (a)
Derby (a)
S'land (h)
Reading (a)
L'Pool (h)
Man C (a)
B'ham (h)
Pompey (a)

5 of Fulham's games are against teams in the bottom eight, so even if they win it will take points off the others.

Boro have been fortunate that there are 8 poor sides and Derby in the PL this season.

The team has showed promise and then failed to deliver, attitude, fitness and consistency need to be improved for next season.

An attacking midfielder is required unless GS can play a front three of Tuncay, Aliadiere and Alves.

Boro need to learn how to break teams down at the Riverside.

At times Boro have looked really good this season, but we have also looked very average on too many occasions.

Hopefully the £20 - 30m pound figure that has been mentioned will be spent wisely (if it exists)

Players need to be bought early in the transfer window so that they can be up to speed with the rest of the squad.

Not the normal hanging on until the window is shut and buying an unfit player who takes months to get fit.

C'Mon Boro!

Posted by: Never Happy  | March 17, 2008 3:49 PM

Ian Gill wrote...

James Emmerson

The difference between Villa and Arsenal is the quality of the footballers.

Arsenal will continue to pass and control possession, to play a very narrow formation which allows teams to be compact and defend. The problem is getting the ball back off them! I dont think we have much choice in the matter.

We could of course have adopted the master tacticians approach of playing 442 with two strikers who wont track back (Veruka and Yak), a right footed midfielder with wanderlust (Rocky) on the left in front of a 19 year old debutant (Taylor) and see how we get on.

John Powls still has mental scars from that match.

Posted by: Ian Gill  | March 17, 2008 3:57 PM

Pat Mc, Dubai wrote...

Great words AV. I laughed out loud at the “Gunnasaurus” paragraph and then re-lived the heart stopping tension through your words thereafter. Made me feel nervous all over again!

“Channel the Anger”…and…”Play Without Fear” (Andy’s post). Combine those two admirable sentiments against Derby (and others after) and we are home and dry before we kick off.

How the Daily Telegraph Football Fantasy gave Fabregas man of the match is bewildering. Boat? Wheater? Huth? Tuncay? Aliadiere?

By the way, I watched the game here in Dubai, and the English commentator stated “Alves is missing as he went back to Brazil after the Cardiff game”. Any news on this AV?

**AV writes: They ALL went missing IN the Cardiff game. There is mystery over Alves as he is variously described as "ill" and "injured". Gate also said he took it maturely when he wasn't involved in midweek, but if you are ill what has maturity got to do with it? Hmmmmm.


Posted by: Pat Mc, Dubai  | March 17, 2008 4:06 PM

Holgate Ender wrote...

The only thing the Arsenal game restored for me was the sense of frustration. How can they play like that against Arsenal and go AWOL against Cardiff? Why can this team historically play well as underdogs but flop as favourites?

I am still gutted big time. They would have to go unbeaten till the end of the season to regain any dignity for me. And even they you would wonder "why?"

Nothing else but a cruel systematic destruction of Derby will do. I don't pay my money to watch them do well on the box away and then freeze at home.

Right now I am undecided about renewing. One more bad display this season and that's it for me.

Posted by: Holgate Ender  | March 17, 2008 4:48 PM

coggins wrote...

Block2:

What makes you think beating Cardiff would increase the attendance against Derby? Prices haven't been reduced and surely it could if anything have had the opposite effect as the cup-attendees save for Wembley.

On the plus side, a lower attendance means fewer occasional, luke-warm, low-quality supporters, including the moaners and chavkids who take advantage of the dirt-cheap tickets but spit their dummies big style out if the opposition aren't destroyed in the first half-hour.

'Jiffy':

'Sorry but who gives a toss about Premier League games? There are 38 of those every season and 46 in a genuinely honest league'.

The fact that we are in the premier league and the financial gains which come from that have probably had a bearing on the fact that we got as far as the quarters, like it did in our recent unprecedented cup successes.

I imagine fans of Leeds, Southampton, Forest et al probably give a toss about no longer being established in the PL, particularly as the gap is growing ever bigger. I bet they could also put up with lack of genuine competition due to the tedious 'big 4' dominance. So careful what you wish for, assuming of course the long-term fortunes of MFC are more important than a weekend on the lash in London.

Assuming we avoid the drop, I'm hoping Stoke and Bristol City both come up next season as i can't see either sticking around for long.

Posted by: coggins  | March 17, 2008 5:35 PM

Malc wrote...

Great display by the Boro but Schwarzer is useless. Misjudged another cross, weak on their goal and will likely demand a pay rise via the back page of the Sun sometime this week.

Now lets end these question marks about a fairly abysmal season and gain a huge 3 against Derby.

Posted by: Malc  | March 17, 2008 5:38 PM

DAVE CONNOR wrote...

to Andy of Hants for your information this post board is not only for you with your rose coloured glasses (no BORO player can do any wrong) grow up man.

It is for each and everyone of us to pass our comments and if you dont like them then why not stop writing back on them. I and others have our opinions and I thank Mr A.V. for allowing us to air them on this website.

Posted by: DAVE CONNOR  | March 18, 2008 2:29 AM

DAVE CONNOR wrote...

Watch it Niel from Baku. Andy from Hants will think you are siding with me and we cant have that can we? He seems to think that 2 people cant see the same mistakes the keeper has been making not just the last couple of games, but many times this and last season. In fact Schwarzer is more frightened of crosses than the legendary Dracula.

Posted by: DAVE CONNOR  | March 18, 2008 2:33 AM

Andy (Hants) wrote...

Malc; 'One has to give credit to Middlesbrough for some fine, intelligent defending backed up by some inspired goalkeeping by Schwarzer (Telegraph on Sunday).

I was there and this comment was accurate. Some seem to damn everything he does. His powers may be on the wain but give credit when its due.

Posted by: Andy (Hants)  | March 18, 2008 8:54 AM

Ian Gill wrote...

Dont wont to muddy the waters but rearranging a certain Brazilian's name gives us Afonso Leavs (nothings perfect) so any chance of some probing journalism from

''the Evening Gazette's award winning football columnist Anthony Vickers that aims to get behind the headlines to flesh out the stories that Boro fans are talking about.

Incisive, provocative and well informed it seeks to engage with articulate supporters and give them a platform to help set the agenda on the issues that matter.''

I am sure it does exactly what it says on the tin.

Posted by: Ian Gill  | March 18, 2008 9:35 AM

Ray Porter wrote...

AV: Your response about Alves to the post from Pat Mc, Dubai, was intriguing.

I must have missed something. Come on, now! Don't be coy! You know something, don't you? Spill the beans, especially as we will now be missing Mido for 3 games.....

**AV writes: Yes, with no Mido let's hope Alves is feeling a bit better come Saturday.

Posted by: Ray Porter  | March 18, 2008 9:54 AM

'Ignorant' of boroland wrote...

I would like to see a convincing win with more than just one goal in it against Derby.

All these draws means we are not getting far enough away from the chasing pack.

I would like to see Never Happy's team with 3 up front play as we should be winning more home games.

Hopefully Derby will be tired out after keeping Man U at bay for 70 mins.

I would have thought its times when we are 1 nil up and the opposition are pushing for an equaliser that Alves should be making some of these YOUTUBE style breakaway goals.

Posted by: 'Ignorant' of boroland  | March 18, 2008 10:10 AM

Never Happy wrote...

from Alves website

Afonso felt unwell during the week, and duly missed his side’s stalemate with Aston Villa on Wednesday. Boro earned their second straight 1-1 draw after Jeremie Aliadiere’s opener was cancelled out by Arsenal defender Kolo Toure.

Middlesbrough moved on to 31 points but remained in 12th place in the league, while the Gunners dropped to second, behind Manchester United on goal difference.

Afonso should return to action when Derby County visit the Riverside Stadium on Saturday, especially given the dismissal of Mido towards the end of the game at the Emirates.

The Boro website states that Alves has a hamstring injury that is being assessed.

Who's telling porkies?

Posted by: Never Happy  | March 18, 2008 11:02 AM

Nigel wrote...

Ian - Give the missus the brush and tin of dulux and get yourself up to the Riverside!

As for Alves if he's done an 'Emerson' then the fall out from that will be far far worse than the Cardiff result.

**AV writes: There is no suggestion of that whatsoever. You know what Teesside is like for rumours.

Posted by: Nigel  | March 18, 2008 11:26 AM

Bryan O wrote...

The Villa and Arsenal performances were indeed excellent but, for all the poor punters who sat through the Cardiff Cup debacle, are they likely to "experience" the same kind of lifeless performance at the Derby home game when 'Boro have to face many of the dispondent witnesses of that desperate Cup event?

We all know our team's worrying achiles heel of failing against poor performing teams!

"It's my fault" and the team needs to convert critical management type performance analysis into successful and entertaining home form now to avoid the risk of being sucked further into the vortex of the drop.

Messrs G & S - watch the season ticket numbers shrink by more thousands for next season (even if we are successful in avoiding the drop) if this issue isn't tackled successfully.

Posted by: Bryan O  | March 18, 2008 12:32 PM

Mark wrote...

I was one of many at the Emirates on Saturday and it was my first visit. Impressive stadium.....I was more impressed with being in the Boro 1/4 though!!

What a laugh, we definitely outsung the Arse for most of the game and gave back enough banter to keep them looking like sour pusses for a week.

I think the Arse players had been on acting lessons all week prior to the game they were awful, I saw better acting on Crossroads.

Unfortunately I was quite er..well oiled so cant remember focusing much in the second half but who cares the atmosphere in our end was electric and the singing didn't stop for a second.

Vic, sorry i didn't get to meet up with you, your mobile number didn't work, or I was too smashed to work out how to use my own phone.

Great day out with a great set of fans.

**AV writes: Better luck next time mate eh?

Posted by: Mark  | March 18, 2008 12:36 PM

mark j wrote...

Alfonso is quite safe , he is over in Hartlepool with me making pies for me Nans pie shop. We got wind of Mido lay off and expect there will be a rush on.

My missus doesnt want me to go to the match either Gilly as we have to decorate the bog , but I have seen 'Escape from Alcatraz' and my papier mashe body is commin on a treat!

If you think of 2 strikers up front and Stewie on the left we still need an attacking midfielder and a right winger who can help out and score goals ! And they should arrive at the start of the transfer window not at the end.

Posted by: mark j  | March 18, 2008 12:49 PM

Never Happy wrote...

AV – I read that Alves was confused about what was on offer to eat in England.

Surprisingly Mido was nominated as his mentor and took him out for a snack. Two days later they returned after surviving on a diet of newbould’s sausage rolls, pies and scotch eggs for breakfast.

A light lunch of large fish and chips with curry sauce was followed by a parmo and chips for tea. Kebabs for supper and then to bed.

No wonder he felt unwell after his sensible diet whilst he played for the clog wearers


C'Mon Boro!

**AV writes: Throw in loads of lager and that is my diet to a tee.

Posted by: Never Happy  | March 18, 2008 12:57 PM

Ian Gill wrote...

I opened my tin expecting to see some vibrant 'changing rooms' journalism but got some whitewash instead. Never mind.

By the sound of it we will need Alves at the weekend or it will be Simba on the bench.

Which reminds me, here is a quote from BBC's quotes of the week

"Mido drops to the bench....let's hope it's a reinforced one!"
Jeff Stelling commenting on the build-up to the Arsenal-Middlesbrough game. (James Wiffen, Chelmsford).

Posted by: Ian Gill  | March 18, 2008 1:02 PM

paul bell wrote...

Mesasage to SG.Please get rid of GS,the man is a joke. He is like a wet rag,can't see him giving any inspirational half time talks. No wonder Cardiff beat Boro,they were clueless.

Should have beaten the Arse also. Boro players seemed to find it difficult to pass the ball to each other. Better beat Derby 7-0. Although knowing Boro ,they will make a a hash of it.

Posted by: paul bell  | March 18, 2008 1:13 PM

Andy (Hants) wrote...

Now now David, we'll have none of your hissy fits on this board please. Good to hear its about a balanced approach so I look forward to some positive feedback when its due about certain players eh?

I am one of these fortunate people whose glass is half full, whereas as others less fortunate (like you) have a half empty glass. My problem is that you beat the same old drum about the same players, never a different tune. DAVE CONNOR THINKS SCHWARZERS CRAP. There you can stop repeating yourself every other post.

Oh and by the way, it's all about opinioins.

Posted by: Andy (Hants)  | March 18, 2008 1:23 PM

Steve B wrote...

I was at the Emirates and I think the back 5 were outstanding, including Schwarzer. Its funny a guy whose brothers cousins mates grandad sat in a pub 300 miles away agreeing with his view that a player was poor, so that makes them right LOL!.

'Theres none so blind than those that will not see'. I'd rather wear Andys rose tinted specs than the black-tinted ones worn by others and give the keeper credit when its due.

Come on, surely we're all big enough for that?

Posted by: Steve B  | March 18, 2008 1:43 PM

London-based Boro fan wrote...

Given all the various permutations posters on here have been coming up with for the teams mired in the battle to avoid relegation, today's 'Times' has an interesting Prem relegation predictor feature which has Boro picking up 13 points from the remaining games & finishing top of the 9 teams in the "relegation table" with 44 points!

For what it's worth, Bolton & Fulham are the teams relegated with Derby. It's tacked on to an article about Fulham's reliance on Brian McBride now that he's back in the team after injury, but unfortunately, doesn't appear to be anywhere on the web site so no link, I'm afraid.

Incidentally, just in case not everybody knows about it already, the Virgin Media Sport site (http://www.virginmedia.com/sport/site) offers free video highlights of all league games.

I stumbled across it after managing to forget that there'd be an MotD last Wednesday evening & subsequently trawling the Net for a likely substitute: having seen Stewie's goal on the news, but not the penalty fiasco, I wanted to know what all the fuss was about... The Villa game can still be viewed, as can Saturday's against Arsenal.

Posted by: London-based Boro fan  | March 18, 2008 1:44 PM

Never Happy wrote...

AV - add the lager and its mine to, however you have to be born in the Boro to become a fine tuned athlete on this diet.

C'Mon Boro!

Posted by: Never Happy  | March 18, 2008 2:39 PM

Nigel wrote...

AV - I get all my Teesside rumours from the Nunthorpe paper shop via my dad, who is 83 years old and by the time he gets back home again he's forgotten where he's been so you can rest assured all of my rumours are totally reliable!

Paul Bell - who was it if not GS who motivated the team to perform so well against Villa and Arsenal? If you think he should be sacked because we didn't beat the gunners then you've lost the plot!

Oh and to coin a cliche, credit where credit's due, Schwarzer has been playing well recently, although I still think he'll be replaced in the summer.

Posted by: Nigel  | March 18, 2008 3:21 PM

stockton red wrote...

Of the last 8 games 5 are at home.

Without doubt the fans need to see something in these games to encourage them to renew season tickets.The season must end with an overall view that next time round there is genuine hope of a push up the league, more goals and better home performances.

Trying to sell tickets for another relegation battle would be difficult for the best of salesmen.

Posted by: stockton red  | March 18, 2008 3:29 PM

JOHN STONE wrote...

Very good displays against Villa & Arsenal,the points could be priceless,but no plaudits yet unless we beat Derby, equally if not more important.

A victory would give us a vital advantage over third bottom and the dreaded drop.

Lets move on,from "we are always the victim" culture which is tainting the season.

We have got dubious decisions in our favour which have given us points at Fulham (one of their late shots crossed the line), Newcastle (Owen's disallowed goal), and Arsenal (Adebayour's disallowed goal) ,so its pretty even over the season.

By constantly complaining we have made ourselves an easy target for the weaker refs

Halsey was pretty neutral on Saturday and generally had a good game.The bizarre thing though was how close he was to much of the play, to such an extent that you expected him to accept a pass from either side and get involved in the play. Maybe his eyesight is failing !

Posted by: JOHN STONE  | March 18, 2008 4:41 PM

Ian Gill wrote...

We can now focus on the Derby game.

Speaking to their fans at work they dont know where their next point or goal is coming from. They hope for something from the Riverside. To be fair, the truth is that if they score they are likely to get at least a point. If they score twice they are likely to win because we dont look like scoring two.

I hear internet scribes tapping away to have a go but we really do need to up the performances at home. A goalkeeping own goal in five hours is a fairly poor return and that is against two middling Championship sides and a prem side in a dire relegation mess who had lost 8 in a row. We do seem to give better performances away from the Riverside.

What should happen? We should go out and dominate them. We should pass them to death. Tuncay and Aliadiere should turn Moore inside out. Downing should run his full back ragged. The Berlin Wall and Redcar Rock should be as impervious as a hill of granite.

The team owe everyone a performance, no excuses about being nervous at home, people get on our backs. The fans turned up but the players didnt. No excuses, deliver.

Posted by: Ian Gill  | March 18, 2008 9:37 PM

Redcar Red wrote...

Three points against Reading and a Cup semi final would have been a lot more fulfulling than two battling performances against Villa and the Gooners.

Still, a few of the Red Shirts have made remedial steps with their performances this week. Now the real test for "Typical Boro" is to take Derby apart at the Riverside on Saturday. Anything less will be reverting to type.

Posted by: Redcar Red  | March 18, 2008 9:55 PM

tonyblack wrote...

Holgate Ender wrote...

The only thing the Arsenal game restored for me was the sense of frustration. How can they play like that against Arsenal and go AWOL against Cardiff? Why can this team historically play well as underdogs but flop as favourites?

I am still gutted big time. They would have to go unbeaten till the end of the season to regain any dignity for me. And even they you would wonder "why?"

Nothing else but a cruel systematic destruction of Derby will do. I don't pay my money to watch them do well on the box away and then freeze at home.

Right now I am undecided about renewing. One more bad display this season and that's it for me.

FINALLY. Someone who see's it just as I see it and expresses it in the same way.

OK then, let's start with the positives and forget games like Reading and Cardiff for the moment.

The last two games were absolutely spot on and are a crystal clear indication of the teams " potential ".

Our " potential " is crystal clear for all to see.

Question 1. Why can't we play like this more often ?

Question 2. Why can't we play like this against the " lesser " clubs ?

Question 3. Why can't we play like this at home ?

Question 4. Why do we choke when we play 6 pointers like the Reading game or at games like Cardiff ?

I'm NOT a GS fan and everyone here knows that. But surely a man of his intelligence can see what we all see and surely he knows what we all know, namely, if the right Boro gets off the bus then absolutely anything's possible. Whereas if the wrong Boro gets off the bus then we will get beat by everyone.

How long must we have to bang on about this before something's done about it ?

So why oh why oh why don't we even AT LEAST get someone in who can analyse the set up e.t.c. and give GS some answers that he can work on ?

Why oh why oh why don't we get someone in who can work with all the coaching staff to put this right, or to at least begin to address it ?

It seems ludicrous to me that this historically keeps on happening and yet we don't make this a priority.

At the very worst it will be a few quid wasted, but even if it has just a slight effect it could make all the difference.

We had Bill before and he was rubbish. But that doesn't mean that you just give up, does it ?

This is my main gripe against GS and this club.

There just seems to be an institutionalised and entrenched problem in the minds of the powers that be whereby we seem just utterly closed off to the idea that there might just be better people out there who can do a better job than we have now.

Why is this ?

Is it a case that the main coaching staff are there because of who they know rather than what they know? I think this is a fair and valid question AV as the main core of the backroom staff have been there for a VERY long time.

I'm not saying that they are all rubbish, I'm just saying that we should look at making changes that will compliment and help GS and CC.

The new fitness coach at Tottenham is a prime example. He's gone in there and made them fitter, stronger and leaner.

Why can't we do that ?

OK, so we keep GS and CC. Not what I would do, but OK.

But lets at the very least bring in a few high profile people in the backroom team to freshen things up a bit and bring in something new.

Lets at least hire some new people with a bit more experience who want a fresh, new and exciting challenge.

We want to get the masses back ? Then lets announce a few new and exciting faces in the backroom team during the summer that have great CV's.

Let's do something in the summer that makes us all really take notice and think that the club really are looking to move forwards.

Let's finally end this historical cycle of boom and bust football.

RANT OVER.

TB

Posted by: tonyblack  | March 19, 2008 10:19 AM

graham waugh snr wrote...

After reading Tuesday's 'The Big Picture' thought it was about time I put something down about the Cardiff City cup defeat .

It still hurts and the 2 games since has done nothing to quell the hurt that came with the pathetic Boro' performance .

This was our chance , a route into Europe . This will not happen again and I think the defeat or the manner of it will affect the club for years to come

If Gareth Southgate , the players and the club think that the Villa and Arsenal games are suffice to appease the fans then they are deluding themselves .

The chance of a Wembley date semi and final would have given Teeside a major boost both in terms of business and feelgood factor and the dismal display by overpaid individuals has lost all that .

We would have been put on the map both nationally and globally. It is a major disaster for the area and the club and the fans who might have returned will have been put right off now and I can see the Derby County match being sub 20,000 .

Southgate blamed the fans and tiredness against Reading which was particularly gaulling . He said the crowd was flat . So what happens? Eight days rest and a full house for Cardiff and a brilliant atmosphere and what do we get ? Another dismal abject display with Gareth blaming the pressure of the occassion.

Mr. Southgate you cannot have it both ways !

The club have got some major decisions to make
in the summer to try to turn this situation around as if the Riverside attendances drop anymore the club will be in major trouble coupled with matchdays having no atmosphere .

A point about team selection . It was clear to see that Arca had been out of form for over 6 weeks and yet Southgate persisted with him . George Boateng had big game experience and should have played .

Pogatetz has been played at left back when clearly he is very uncomfortable there but Gareth again persists with him when Johnathan Grounds had filled in admirably there and has linked up well with Downing something that Manny does not but again Southgate appears not to pick players in form.

His touchline manner leaves a lot to be desired with a gentle clap now and again . It leaves me frustrated and gives the impression that he has is passionless and not geeing up the players .

I will again renew my season card but there will be a lot who won't and it is those that Messrs. Gibson , Lamb and Southgate have to convince .

I look forward to just how they will word the renewal letter this year .

Sincrely , Graham ( season ticket holder )

PS big thank you to the 12th. man for their 'Sporting Glory ' card display. Pity the players did'nt read it !

Posted by: graham waugh snr  | March 19, 2008 11:07 AM

'Ignorant' of boroland wrote...

I think Gate needs to get an attacking coach on board , someone who can get the attack motivated and clear thinking on what is expected.

Tuncay and Alliadierre Know what they are doing and Mido and Alves once fit should too but we should try and better ourselves.

I still think that we need an attacking central midfielder in the summer to back up the strikers as everyone else seems more holding midfield with Rockembacks passes being near enough the main assist to the strikers , although I see Southgate does nt know wether to stick or twist on Rocky's contract. No doubt he will go to Portugal and get played in the Mascerano role and do the biz.

The only solution I can think of if we dont buy an attacking midfielder is to move O'Neil inside and get him playing box to box like Stevei G. and then buy a decent right winger and move o'neil inside next to rocky or boat.

All players dip in form at some point during the season and its Arca's turn at the mo, he needs a rest. Its just unfortunate that we lost him to a nasty challange earlier in the season against sunderland when he was on fire.

I think the attack against Derby should consist of-from left to right-

Downing getting forwardTuncay -Alves - Aliadierre.
Boat/Rocky O'Neil
Grounds Wheats Huth-captain Young
SWARTZ

and lets see if we can score more than 2 for the fans!

Posted by: 'Ignorant' of boroland  | March 19, 2008 11:51 AM

Greeny wrote...

I find it amazing at how few comments on this blog relate to the fact that we haven`t scored more than two goals in a game all season.

I never thought McClaren capable of setting up a team to play attacking football, however he was blessed with three gifted strikers, who, on form, could score goals for fun.

I worry that GS can even identify a true goal scorer. Look at his four purchases. Tuncay and Aliadiere have undoubted talent and may have their place in the team, but are they going to solve our goalscoring problems ? I`ve lost count of the times when Tuncay has been one on one with a keeper and hasn`t even forced a save out of him.

Past history must bring into question just what Mido brings to the club. He talks a great game and some of his activities on the pitch are beginning to confer him with "cult" status.

But in truth he has done very little where it counts. He was fat at Spurs and shows no sign of changing at the Riverside. (Incidentally notice how the Yak has slimmed off since moving to Everton?)

Alves is even more worrying. It makes you think when the Boat is constantly harping on about us not seeing the best of him until next season and Mido has to counsel him not to take personal the violent nature of English centre halves.

All four players have shown flashes to tempt us into thinking we are soon going to give sides a pasting. We need a hell of a lot more than flashes.

On reflection, you can see why we bottled it against the Taffies. The team know that if they concede a goal, they are unlikely to win the game. Concede two and it`s curtains.

I`m praying for a windfall against Derby.

Posted by: Greeny  | March 19, 2008 12:39 PM

mark j wrote...

Luckily Downing has been baling the strikers out a bit with 7 goals this season.

Lots of people mentioned Defoe during the Jan window as he is proven. I think Alves needs to be played more and not isolated in a 1 up front , lone striker role .

Especially at home! Lets have a go.

Posted by: mark j  | March 19, 2008 1:58 PM

'Ignorant' of boroland wrote...

Its the lack of goals that is keeping the fans away. The most that can be hoped for is a squeaky 1-0 win away every now and then.

The win at home against Arse was great, more of the same

Posted by: 'Ignorant' of boroland  | March 19, 2008 2:04 PM

Ian Gill wrote...

Greeny

I certainly mention the lack of scoring - see my last post.

Gate was so concerned he took them away to the red light district in Amsterdam. Sent them into a brothel and they still came out virgins.

Craddock is back from his loan period, is that because Afonso Leavs wont be in the squad or is terrified of Simba.

**AV writes: The current Alvesometer is 60/40 for Derby.

Posted by: Ian Gill  | March 19, 2008 2:10 PM

tonyblack wrote...

" 'Ignorant' of boroland wrote...

I think Gate needs to get an attacking coach on board , someone who can get the attack motivated and clear thinking on what is expected. "

I totally, totally agree and I think that this, along with what I suggested earlier, would be a great move and it would really show the fans that we are at least trying to find solutions to the problems that clearly exist. As long as we employ people who really do cut the mustard.

I think if the club were far more proactive and adventurous in trying these things then fans would give this new team more time.

I would anyway.

TB

Posted by: tonyblack  | March 19, 2008 2:46 PM

Redcar Red wrote...

My selection for Saturday is:
Schwarzer,
Young, Huth, Wheater, Taylor,
Aliadiere, O'Neil, Boat, Downing,
Alves, Tuncay.

This gives Alves as much support as he will ever get and against the worst team in the history of the Premiership.

It also signals an attacking intent and another opportunity to "rebuild" bridges with the Teesside public who quite frankly are weary of feeble spineless excuses.

Gareth the time has come to either put up or shut up. The ground will be half empty because of the blame being apportioned for the Reading debacle on the fans (the loyal remaining few who skint themselves every week) and then were treated to the absolute gutwrenching disgrace that was Cardiff.

No excuses, anything less than a four clear goal margin will be seen as pathetic and "Typical Boro". The fans are owed at least one entertaining performance at home this year, God knows for their £500+ they deserve it and are entitled to it (Trades description comes to mind).

If you haven't got the bottle for the teamtalk Gareth just let me know and I will show you what a real Manager does with underachievers feeling sorry for themselves.

I'll even stand on the touchline and make damn sure that anybody who does not come off the pitch breathless, ready to puke and with a huge stitch will wish they were playing at Sid James Park.

Posted by: Redcar Red  | March 19, 2008 8:22 PM

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