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Can Boro Heroes Ever Make The Grade?

Posted by on April 24, 2007 11:11 PM | 

HAS A BORO player ever made the PFA team of the year? Has one even come close to breaking into the big club magic circle? Has one even deserved to? Ever?

The annual glamour boys' mutual back-slapping beano produced a list of the usual suspects that was predictable and flawed with an unscientific bias towards using the league table as a guide. Like giving the Manager of the Year award to the boss who starts with best players and the most money and merely meets his objectives rather than to a Sam Allardyce or Steve Coppell figure who have done more to earn it by far exceeding expectations despite financial limitations and starting from a lower base, it is all deeply unsatisfying and suggests that whatever the merits of the case, employees of provincial and middling clubs need not apply.

Must we accept then that as Boro have never threatened to land the top four spot needed to even register in the game's consciousness, that the club have never had a player worthy of a place in the elite XI? Surely that can't be right?

Last year Stewart Downing was a revelation and his ability to beat his man and deliver pinpoint crosses to the far post teed up a string of goals for Yakubu, Mark Viduka and Jimmy Floyd Hasselbaink, helped engineer the downfall of Man United and Chelsea at the Riverside and twice engineered eye-catching Houdini acts in Europe. His displays made him the Premiership's assist king, a must for Fantasy Football teams and marked him out as the most exciting left-sided prospect in English football. But the left sided midfield slot in the PFA team went to right-footed Chelsea bench warmer and stepover merchant Joe Cole.

It was ever thus. The season before Bolo Zenden was brilliant. His creativity in a left central midfield slot transformed Boro and he craeted a string of excellent goals as well as scoring more than his own fair share. His displays were good enough to earn a move to the reigning European champions but not enough to get a slot in the players select.

It seems that unless you play for a big club or attract the attention of the glamour groupies in the media circus that this recognition from peers will not be forthcoming. This season's selection for instance is incredible. Edwin van der Sar has not shown the gravity defying athleticism and reflexes of Ben Foster for instance, nor the positional sense of Peter Cech, nor even kept the number of clean sheets for a weaker team that David James has. And any team that can not find a place for Cesc Fabregas this season is surely a nonsense.

Even within the big four the team is a nonsense. Rio Ferdinand has had an indifferent season, littered with costly mistakes and disrupted by injury. How can he be geta place in this team ahead of consistentlyimpressive Ricardo Carvalho, who held Chelsea together during their long injury ravaged winter and has scored goals to boot or Daniel Agger, central to a run of eight successive clean sheets for Liverpool?

You expect the professionals to be able to identify sublime skills, technical prowess and the off the ball work so vital to overall team performance that the layman, the press box and the cameras often miss. And you expect them to see that rather than be blinded by a shirt. Most clubs - even those not in the G-14 - have two or three players of outstanding ability that screams out for recognition. This season players like Taylor at Portsmouth, Pederson and Bently at Blackburn, Arteta at Everton, Barry at Villa, Davies at Bolton and McBride at Fulham have been brilliant week in, week out. Don't they deserve a shout?

And what about Boro's candidates? Is it too fanciful to put a case that Jonathan Woodgate and Mark Viduka should be included in this season's team? Woodgate has been absolutely outstanding. Having arrived as a 'crock' and after two years on the sidelines has has left superlatives trailing in his wake as he coped with the best the Premiership has to offer without breaking sweat or even into a sprint. His positional sense is so acute that he rarely has to make a tackle, his presence so imposing that opposition forwards retreat and look for another route rather than attack down his channel and his leadership and organisational qualities are reflected in the dramatic transformation of Pogatetz from error-prone lumbering left-back to inspirational central defensive collosus.

Almost every match has been marked by the national lads in the press box drolling over his displays and wondering why he is at Boro, and by opposition managers remarking on his incredible impact on the game. Surely that is worthy of praise and recognition by the players?

And what of Viduka? The Aussie has terrified even the most militarily marshalled defences all season, holding them off with his strength on the ball, pulling them apart a shift of his weight and a little twist. He scores goals, yes, and he sets them up for others, yes. But what he does most effectively of all is unsettles defences, pulls them out of shape and creates fault lines of uncertainty that can be exploited, he forces mistakes and creates panic. Even on Saturday, Manchester United and eight members of the PFA team of the year could not cope with him. Surely that ability dereves to be recognised?

Or I have I got it all wrong? Maybe Boro players are de facto rubbish and we have never had a single player worthy of inclusion.

Meanwhile, the PFA divisional teams, and specifically the Championship one, make for interesting reading. It would be worthwhile Boro regarding them as shopping lists, if only because the players who featured two or three years ago are now the first names shouted out by supporters who insist there is plenty of cut-price talent down there in the lower leagues.

The Championship select from 2003-04 was: Robert Green (Norwich), Phil Jagielka (Sheffield United), Danny Gabbidon (Cardiff), Malky Mackay (Norwich), Julio Arca (Sunderland), Tim Cahill (Millwall), Michael Carrick (West Ham), Jason Koumas (West Brom), Andrew Reid, (Nottingham Forest), Robert Earnshaw (Cardiff), Andrew Johnson (Crystal Palace).

Of those Jagielka, Cahill, Carrick, Koumas and Johnson. You'd take those wouldn't you? And maybe Arca at a push. As cover. Back then they were all bargain basement buys.

Last season's XI was: Marcus Hahnemann (Reading), Gary Kelly (Leeds), Ibrahima Sonko (Reading), Joleon Lescott (Wolves), Nicky Shorey (Reading), Steve Sidwell (Reading), Ashley Young (Watford), Phil Jagielka (Sheffield United), Jason Koumas (Cardiff), Marlon King (Watford), Kevin Doyle (Reading)

Again, putting aside that Reading were aiming to keep their team together, most fans would be keen on Sidwell, Lescott, Jagielka, Koumas and at the right price Young, King and Shorey too.

This Summer's shoppng list, and some of the names have been bandied about for a while already, is: Murray (Wolves), Alexander (Preston), Moore (Derby), Davies (WBA), Bale (Southampton), McSheffrey (Birmingham), Whitehead & Edwards (both Sunderland), Koumas (WBA), Chopra (Cardiff City), Kamara (WBA).

Comments (27)

alf wrote...

Lets look at it another way, how many teesside born lads have gone onto make it in the premier league? Either at boro or elsewhere? bet there is less than 10 done it in last 10 years

Looking at your championship teams of the season, i do wonder why boro dont put as much effort in signing top players from the championship. eg sidwell, doyle, zamora, Koumas, johnson, carrick, cahill

i wish our scouting system wa improved and looked beyond big team of europe...pogo and rocky played against boro so easy to spot,woodgate is local lad,arca was playing up the road so also easy to spot.

WE need more players like quedrue who are unknowns and we discover them


you say woodgate has been outstanding but in recent games he has made some terrible mistakes which has led to goals..maybe he has taken his foot off the gas.

viduka although been good for boro, he hasnt been as good enough and consistent enough to make the pfa list. for starters doyle and zamora have scored more goals.

Your article sound like another boro fan who has chip on his shoulder or is paranoid. Lets think about it...we are just above the relegation battle and team like manutd chelsea arsenal and liverpool are way above us inthe league.

Just maybe our players havent actually played that well this season and when they have played well its not been consistent. liverpool's,chelsea's and manutd must have good defenders..just look at the amount of goals they have conceded

I think they key is to be able to do it week in and week out and not just 1 game every 2 months.

**AV writes: It is certainly not a question of chip on shoulder. And as I said, it is not just Boro but every club in the Premiership outside the top four must feel the same frustrations. I can't believe that year after year only players from the top four are worthy of praise. If the PFA ballot is not the avenue for that then what is?

Posted by: alf  | April 25, 2007 11:17 AM

alf wrote...

AV, but surely it is common sense that the teams at the top of the league will have more players in the pfa team of the season? And any injustice is just clutching at straws because the players are voted by their fellow professionals.

The top 2 or 3 teams are miles ahead of the rest and by manutd having most of the pfa team, then it sums up how the premier league is with the top teams so far ahead

BTW, viduka isnt even in the top 15 premiership goals scorers. so cant see why he would be in there.

Maybe if we had finished 5th or 6th and someone like viduka scored 20 league goals then there would be a case to answer.

**AV writes: Well why do the big clubs raid the smaller clubs for players then if they are no good? The best players may gravitate towards the big clubs but they start outside and aren't the skills that create the pricetag evident even when they are playing for the minnows?

As for Viduka I don't think it is just a case of scoring goals but the technical ability he has. What he does he does extremely well and I wonder why players lik ehim are not recognised by fellow pros.

Or I could be wrong and actually every team outside the top four is made up of feckless losers.

Posted by: alf  | April 25, 2007 11:43 AM

alf wrote...

But surely players like carrick.e.tc become better players when they move to manutd because they are still improving..

But i can't see how someone like viduka can be ahead of drogba, ronaldo or scholes in the pfa team of the season. dont really know much about berbatov but he isnt playing for one of the top 4.

I think its a case of rose tinted specs and i am sure ali brownlee has hacked into your blog.

If any club has any grievance over it i would say probably chelsea and liverpool..especially their defence.. i notice no lampard who has scored more goals than viduka

Posted by: alf  | April 25, 2007 12:12 PM

Never Happy wrote...

AV - What you have written is correct, prehaps the players from teams outside the big four should get together and all refuse to vote for any players from those clubs.

Van De Sar has not been the best keeper, Foster, Cech, Howard and Jaaskelainen have been better.

Neville has been injured and missed a lot of games.

Ferdinand is overarted, Vidic has done a pogo and improved massively this season.

Baines at Wigan is a better LB than Evra.

Difficult to argue with the midfield, but several others, Fabregas, Sidwell, Arteta and Taylor could easily have been included.

The front two deserve to be in the team.

Is the PFA team and award chosen from a pre-selected list like the BBC sports personality award?

AV I think you are banging your head against a brick wall with Alf, he never seems to have anything good to say about the Boro.

Posted by: Never Happy  | April 25, 2007 12:18 PM

alf wrote...

I'm sorry never happy, but i have to laugh.The way you go on about the manutd players I am surpised they arnt 14th in the league.

Maybe it is reality check time and we are nearer the bottom3 than top 4 because our team isnt as good as we all think

the PFA team are selected by the pfa players and they can vote for who ever they want. So any conspiracies are just daft. Remember its players voting for their fellow professionals. So it will reflect the true team.

**AV writes: I think it partly reflects how highly they rate a particular player overall - "Rio's great, he's the man" - rather than neccessarily how well they have played over a specific time frame ie this season..

Posted by: alf  | April 25, 2007 12:32 PM

Never Happy wrote...

AV - What do you know about the rumour about signing José Bosingwa?

Internet search revealed:

José Bosingwa da Silva (born August 24, 1982 in Kinshasa) is a football player from Portugal. He currently plays for Portuguese giants FC Porto.

Bosingwa has previously played for Boavista FC, Porto's local rivals from the same city. He is a versatile player who can play defensive midfield, as a controlling midfielder, on the right-wing and at right-back.

He was part of the 2005-06 FC Porto Portuguese champions team.

He is the pot model of Ashley Cole, prehaps this is why dozy Don has taken a shine to him.

**AV writes: I think it is just a rumour, although Don Mackay spends a lot of time in Portugal. His searches have previously unearthed Douala and Rochemback.

Posted by: Never Happy  | April 25, 2007 12:36 PM

Ian Gill wrote...

Truth of the matter is that if you put Woodie behind the ManU midfield he would star.

The performances of these top players depends on the people around them. When ManU were beaten by Portsmouth Pompey had a good percentage of possession, didnt give it away and were then able to get at ManU's back four.

That then makes them look shaky because even ManU's defenders give away free kicks sometimes and that leads to pressure.

If ManU are in full flow with Scholes and Carrick pulling the strings for Giggs, Ronaldoveragain, Shrek and AN Other then the other team sees little possession and the centrebacks can play in their slippers.

The PFA team of the year reflects this so it is highly unlikely players from the also rans will get a look in, most of the places will go to the best team. Fact of life I'm afraid.


Posted by: Ian Gill  | April 25, 2007 12:56 PM

John Powls wrote...

Vic

Then, for goodness sake, let's start running a high profile campaign to keep Mr. Mackay out of Portugal!! Particularly if you could add Xavier to your list!

Or maybe we could send Mr. Mackay to Portugal permanently and end his association with Boro. Whichever suits best!

Posted by: John Powls  | April 25, 2007 1:05 PM

dave wrote...

"Truth of the matter is that if you put Woodie behind the ManU midfield he would star."

Maybe rio ferdinand and vidic are better though.Hence, why manutd signed them and not woodgate. I've also seen woodgate get caught out in games quite a lot recently.

Posted by: dave  | April 25, 2007 1:11 PM

Never Happy wrote...

Alf - please just answer these questions

Do you think Van Der Sar has been the best keeper in the PL this season?

Has Gary Neville been injured for quite a bit of this season?

Do you think Ferdinand is better than Woodgate?

You said 'you say woodgate has been outstanding but in recent games he has made some terrible mistakes which has led to goals'.

So has Ferdinand and Van Der Sar.

I praised Vidic and did not argue against any other Man U player (except Evra being in the PFA team)

Posted by: Never Happy  | April 25, 2007 1:17 PM

alf wrote...

I tell you what have a look at the goals conceded column in the prmeier league and see which teams have the best and worst defences

Posted by: alf  | April 25, 2007 1:18 PM

alf wrote...

never happy,

Do you think Van Der Sar has been the best keeper in the PL this season?-yes. Just look at how many goals man utd have concended

Has Gary Neville been injured for quite a bit of this season? he has played 24 league games, woodgate has only played 27 and viduka has played 26 but only started 19! so really if neville shouldnt be in then niether should woodgate or viduka

Do you think Ferdinand is better than Woodgate? Yes. again look at how many goals manutd have conceded

You said 'you say woodgate has been outstanding but in recent games he has made some terrible mistakes which has led to goals'.

So has Ferdinand and Van Der Sar. i agree but they have been more consistent and conceded less goals than boro and woodgate. woodgate made some shocking mistakes at old trafford(weeekend),against west ham and agianst villa

i think you get my point now, top 4 teams usually have the best players as they are top 4

Posted by: alf  | April 25, 2007 2:03 PM

Holgate Ender wrote...

i agree that stewy downing should have been in the pfa team last season as he was class. not sure about zenden though. he finished the season alright but we know how he started it.

we have had some great lads over the years but the players only see them twice a season close up. the rest of the time they have to decide just like us based on motd and the papers and we know how boro get treated by them.

over the riverside years i have thought pearson, juninho, higgy, festa, ince, boateng in his one good season and downig have had a decent chance of getting in a team of the year but i am not surprised that they haven't and to be honest i dont care. who gives a toss what ashley cole or anton ferdinand think?

Posted by: Holgate Ender  | April 25, 2007 2:24 PM

Nigel wrote...

For the Prem. players to vote for those playing superbly all season would require some thought, personally I suspect they don't think too much on this subject but vote for 'big reputations'.

The PFA award is worth b*gg*r all anyway, its like getting an oscar, back scratching etc. Completely pointless.

The other issue is that most players like us watch there football on SKY thus giving the players in the big four the edge as they are on the most.

GS has stated he intends looking in the lower leagues for players I hope he does, there are bargains to be had and players with desire and a point to prove. We don't want anymore 'impoverished' players moving from Porto because they're offered a wedge they can't refuse.

Posted by: Nigel  | April 25, 2007 2:45 PM

Never Happy wrote...

Alf - I never posted that Viduka or Woodgate should be in the PFA team.

Both Chelsea (20 goals) and Liverpool (22 goals) have conceded less than Man U in the PL this season.

Why aren't any of their defenders in the PFA team.

Surely using your logic they should be.

Using the ACTIM Index, the top five keepers this season are

1 jose reina Liverpool
2 marcus hahnemann Reading
3 david james Portsmouth
4 tim howard Everton
5 edwin van der sar Manchester United

Top 5 defenders
1 steve finnan Liverpool
2 ricardo carvalho Chelsea
3 rio ferdinand Manchester United
4 joleon lescott Everton
5 phil neville Everton

Top 5 Midfielders
1 cristiano ronaldo Manchester United
2 frank lampard Chelsea
3 gareth barry Aston Villa
4 cesc fabregas Arsenal
5 mikel arteta Everton

Top 5 Forwards
1 didier drogba Chelsea
2 wayne rooney Manchester United
3 andy johnson Everton
4 dimitar berbatov Tottenham Hotspur
5 el-hadji diouf Bolton Wanderers

The team for the season would be
Reina, Finnan, Carvaliho, Ferdinand, Lescott, Ronaldho, Lampard, Febregas, Barry, Rooney, Drogba.

**AV writes: that is closer to what I would have thought.

Posted by: Never Happy  | April 25, 2007 3:01 PM

vinny G wrote...

Dont think downing would have made it ahead of giggs last season. giggs is a far better player than downing even last season.

Posted by: vinny G  | April 25, 2007 3:08 PM

Nigel wrote...

Never Happy, I notice that Woody doesn't score particularly highly in the Actim index and is behind Pogatez. I trust the prem. managers use this index when deciding who to buy in the Summer!

Posted by: Nigel  | April 25, 2007 3:39 PM

alf wrote...

thats my whole point never happy, from what you have there...no boro players would get a look in.

as for ACTIM Index, stats can be read how ever you want them and boateng might complete 80% but gerrard only completes 70% but boatengs are all 10 yards sideways.etc

I think the actual players are the best ones to judge. they do play the game afterall,whereas us fans just support our club. a player can judge how tough it was to play against another player. all we can do is look at championship manager type stats.

BTW, have you noticed that there are no boro players in the top 50 and viduka and woodgate ain't even in the top 100! why is that?i thought they are our best pleyers

Posted by: alf  | April 25, 2007 3:48 PM

Never Happy wrote...

Nigel - Woody is not in the top 100, Pogo, Schwartzer, Downing, Taylor and Boateng are.

No system is perfect, but it does make interesting reading.

I for one would not have expected to see Phil Neville or Diouf in the top five of their particular field.

Then again I would not have picked Man U back five to be the defence for the PFA team. I would have chosen, Cech, Neville, Terry, Woodgate, Baines.

It's all a matter of opinion and means nothing in the overall scheme of things.

As long as Boro do well who cares?

Posted by: Never Happy  | April 25, 2007 3:55 PM

Never Happy wrote...

Alf - you say the stats are meaningless and then use them to beat Woody and Viduka.

I will again post it, I do not think any Boro players deserve to be in the PFA team. Just as the teams defence should not be made up of the Man U back 5.

You mention that no Boro players figure highly and then ignore the fact that no Man U defender is in the top 20 players.

Also why no Chelsea or Liverpool players are in the PFA team?

Saying the players know best because they face each other is flawed, what happens if a striker from a bottom club scores a hatful of goals against a top side, and then scores no more goals over the season.

Will the defender from the top side select that striker because he played well against them?

As I posted to Nigel, I don't really give a toss about the PFA team, as long as Boro are doing well who cares.

One more question Alf, have you ever posted anything positive about the Boro team?

Posted by: Never Happy  | April 25, 2007 4:21 PM

Nigel wrote...

Alf I'm curious do you really support the Boro?!

Posted by: Nigel  | April 25, 2007 4:24 PM

Scott wrote...

I did have a little chuckle to myself when i seen the team if the year. The Man Utd back 5? Crazy!!

There has been a few keepers mentioned on this page, and now im going to throw in another. I think David James has been outstanding this year. Jamo is one of the reasons Pompey have done so well this year, the other reasons I will come to. I can think of many an occasion he has kept his team in a game.

In place of Ferdinand, rather than Agger, Carvalho or Woodgate, I would have Big Sol. Again, he has been a revelation for Pompey this year, and such a great pick up from Harry.

I would agree with keeping Vidic alongside him.

Right back is a tough one, but I would follow the stats and have Steve Finnan. At left back, I would go Leighton Baines.

The midfield you cant really argue with, Ronaldo, Giggs, Scholes and Gerrard have been the best 4 midfield players in the country.

I would throw a couple more names in the though, Taylor at Pompey, Barry at Villa, Nolan at Bolton and Sidwell at Reading.

I cant argue with the strikers at all. I think Berbatov has been sensational this yaer, and I dont think Spurs fans realised how good he was when they bought him. A little under £11 million was an absolute bargain for a player of his calibre and Mr Jol deserves a big pat on the back for bringing him to our game. (Mind you, he is still to hit double figures in the league!!)

I dont rate Drogba, Ive never liked him as a player, I think he is lazy and selfish (not just in front of goal). Last season he couldnt kick a ball straight, never mind score a goal! The only reason I would keep him in is because of his goal to game ratio, which is second to none over the season.

Again, I have a couple of other names I would like to bring in, obviously Rooney, but also McCarthy who has been excellent for Rovers, Crouch who always seems to score and Van Persie at Arsenal who, if he hadnt been injured, would of been challenging Ronaldo and Drogba for the main award!!

So, my team would be:

James
Finnan
Campbell
Vidic
Baines
Ronaldo
Scholes
Gerrard
Giggs
Drogba
Berbatov

Posted by: Scott  | April 25, 2007 7:27 PM

Ian Gill wrote...

Dave, what are you on about? I was using Woodie as an example of players who could play for Manu and star.

That is why their players end up in the PFA team. They are currently the best team in the country, most good footballers would look better if they played for ManU.

As for the Actim index it is one of many. Some are subjective, some oblective, some are result orientated. Some of the more basic ones use a reults orientated system such as the numerous fantasy football games which tend to be based on telling contributions such as scoring, keeping clean sheets, creating goals etc. The best thing is they create debate.

Posted by: Ian Gill  | April 25, 2007 9:30 PM

red_rebel wrote...

The poll is quite worrying because it reflects the steady drift of a once very competitive league into a black hole.

The sheer mass of the big four is sucking all the money, players, ambitions, dreams, hopes and publicity into orbit around them. Long gone are the days of a wide spread of talent and broadly balanced chances of success.

I think at root what the poll measures is perception rather than reality. All popularity polls are inherently flawed and are weighted towards those candidates who are already popular and whose abilities are well known, those who have a big media presence and a machine behind them.

The players watch football on the box and read it pre-digested in the papers so are subject to the same relentles Sky/Murdoch propaganda about the product with all its preconceptions so who can blame them if asked to make a choice and fill out a form they take the easy route and pick the big name players who are on the box three times a week and who the pundits salivate over?

But that coverage is all just product placement. There is a dynamic within football that encourages Sky and the Murdoch press to concentrate on the big four because they put bums on seats and sell papers and that coverage helps build their brand, make them more money and buy more big name players
that encourage even more media hype and so on.

When was the last time you saw a thoughful, empathetic analytical piece in any of the Murdoch media about the tactics, or culture or finances of Boro, Reading, Fulham or Bolton. Or saw a Sky sports profile on players from these teams?

It is all United, Chelsea, United, Chelsea, Liverpool, Arsenal, United, Chelsea... and here are the rest of the goals from the Premiership. So why expect the players subject to that cultural pressure to vote for a lad from Wigan or Portsmouth who thay have barely seen in action when the media constantly say that the ubiquitous United players are by definition the best?

If Man United really do have eight of the best players in the Premiership then the game is up.

Posted by: red_rebel  | April 25, 2007 10:59 PM

Ian Gill wrote...

red rebel

The most telling indictment of the big four bias I can remember was the first leg of the Carling Cup semi against the Gunners.

Sky had three ex footballesr as their pundits. If my memory is correct they were Alan Smith, Nigel Winterburn and Paul Merson. So the sum total of past Boro involvement was one season from a player who turned from Magic Merson to Missing Person after a season. There is nothing like balanced reporting and this was nothing like.

To some extent it has always been this way but it is much harder to break into the monopoly than it was in the past, probably almost impossible.

Even people like Benitez complain about the purchasing power of Chelsea and ManU whilst turning a blind eye to the huge sums of money Liverpool have spent by himself and Houllier - not all succesful one may add.

Posted by: Ian Gill  | April 26, 2007 9:24 AM

Ade wrote...

Wasn't Juninho in the team of the year a few years back, am sure he was runner up in player of the year to Zola, so he may well have made the Team of the Year. Could be wrong tho :P

**AV writes: Wasn't that the Football Writers Award?

Posted by: Ade  | April 26, 2007 2:15 PM

Andy, Aberdeen wrote...

Will somebody put the Alien Life Form out of his undoubted misery....perrrlease.......

Posted by: Andy, Aberdeen  | April 27, 2007 11:52 PM

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