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Sign Up For Price Cuts Campaign

Posted by on February 22, 2007 10:11 AM | 

FOLLOWING on from the petrol heads attempt to clog up Tony Blair's in-box with an on-line petition, the Football Supporters Federation are looking to cyber-space to show the depth of feeling against the game's exhorbitant pricing policies.

Now they the FSF have launched a petition to be delivered to all the club chairman as a way of making concrete the concerns of supporters everywhere. It will also be used as part of the presentations they make to government, sporting bodies and the media so it is a numbers game too: the more names on the petition the greater the weight behind their arguments.

It is important that we make our voices heard at this watershed moment in the game's financial development. If we do wield our collective consumer power now next year's TV bonanza will go directly into already cash bloated players' and agents' pockets or will be siphoned off by the new breed of profiteering businessmen who do not care about our game.

Anger has been rising for years as tickets increased well ahead of the rate of inflation. There was a lot of grumbling, an increase in picking and choosing, a collapse in cup gates and a steady trickle of people walking away from the live matchday experience. Those trends will undoubtedly increase dramatically if the game squanders the windfall from the new mega-bucks TV deal and there is no dividend for supporters.

We all know the arguments, they have been rehersed on here and in other places countless times. Football365 Rock and roll football writer John Nicholson has today added his voice in his weekly column on Fly Me To The Moon. There is no question there is a wide consensus on the ground that it is time for change.

And we are all aware of the pressure being put on clubs by the likes of The Sun in their shamelessly populist campaign to cut prices and the noises being made by ministers. We will all recognise the first steps being taken by clubs in pegging prices for less glamourous games and in pioneering Bolton cutting season ticket prices by an average 10%.

But it is important that fans have an independent voice too. We can not trust politicians to fight our corner and we can not rely on a newspaper owned by the same group that runs Sky Sports to have our wider interests at heart. And even the clubs that have made cuts are responding purely to commercial pressure and have not suddenly seen the light and thrown their lot in with the customers. Those bodies all have their own quite different agendas.

Our interests lay in a well organised, articulate and well informed supporters' movement that can command respect, can put convincing arguments and can show it speaks for masses of fans at every level of the game and in every corner of the country.

Poster Never Happy has pointed to this article in the Independent which shows how the on-line consumer revolt over ticket prices is similar in scope and tactics to those over bank charges, road pricing is generating very real political pressure.


That is why it is important that this petition is a success. It needs big numbers to give it weight and that means it must have the widest possible circulation, not only on blogs like this and message boards because they have a limited reach. It must go beyond that, into work places, colleges and private homes. We need to pass it on to everyone we know who is an active fan.

You can sign the petition here.

Be warned, you will get a lot replies as it is passed on to all the clubs and many will reply. There could be 92 new messages in your mailbox.

Comments (14)

alf wrote...

The only way forward it sadly to boycott games, otherwise the clubs just patronise the fans

**AV writes: Sadly, I think it may come to that at some clubs. As it is now with the media and politicians briefly on side there is a great political opportunity for fans (who are also readers and voters) to make themselves heard.

Posted by: alf  | February 22, 2007 12:05 PM

Never Happy wrote...

The petition may have no impact, however it at least gives fans the opportunity to let the football clubs and authorities know how they feel.

If every supporter signs the petition the clubs may have to take notice.

No doubt if the majority of supporters do not sign the petition, the clubs will use this as an excuse not to do anything with the pricing structure of games.


Posted by: Never Happy  | February 22, 2007 12:59 PM

Ian Gill wrote...

A lot will depend just how much notice football people take of what is happening in the real world.

Will they continue to delude them selves that all is fine and that it is all very well these rumblings going on but they know best. Whilst the clubs look at us as no more than a conveyor belt of beans waiting to be covered in tomato sauce and tinned then there will be no change.

There current approach is transactional, they sell we buy. If they move to a view that there is an exchange takng place where both parties benefit then we will see progress.

The first step is to reduce prices because this is the issue that is clouding everything. It is an area where clubs can show intent and good faith. As I have said many times before there is no sound unless someone can hear it, in this case willing to hear it.

Posted by: Ian Gill  | February 22, 2007 1:38 PM

Barnet Nigel wrote...

Hopefully there is enough momentum being built against high ticket prices, combined with the knowledge of increased TV revenues that the pressure to act will be irresistible and the clubs will be forced to act.

Posted by: Barnet Nigel  | February 22, 2007 7:48 PM

Never Happy wrote...

I just had a look at the site and the number of verified signatures stood at just over six thousand.

On average approxiamately eight hundred thousand fans attend matches every week.

As I said previously the petition may have no impact and be ignored by the clubs.

However you can be sure that if the petition is signed by a small percentage of fans, the clubs will use this as a justification of their pricing policies.

On to tomorrow and someone is due to give Reading a beating, Boro 3 Reading 1.

C'Mon Boro!

**AV writes: Yes, it is a sluggish start. Let's hope it is a slow burner. We don't want to hear "It was The Sun wot won it"

Posted by: Never Happy  | February 23, 2007 8:56 AM

alf wrote...

A petition wont do much really in this case. its not as if people are forced to go to the match. so they have the choice of not going. A petition is mostly effective when its compulsory.

The best way to go is for fans to remain in the concourse until after kick off. that way the tv cameras will show empty stadiums and that will lead to questions being asked by tv viewers/chairman/sky..etc it would generate plenty of publicity

the power is in the supporters but they need to act as one.

**AV writes: I agree that only Fans United can force serious long term concessions. The petition is just a small step but if it is a success people will draw strength from the numbers, the profile and the knowledge that hundreds of thousands of fellow fans feel the same.

Posted by: alf  | February 23, 2007 10:14 AM

dave wrote...

I read on the bbc website that manutd fans are up in arm at having to pay £45 at fulham. I went there last season and it was only about £20-£25. They are telling away fans not to buy anything inside the ground.

I feel it will get to the stage where nationally fans will have to boycott a weekend of games

Fans wont like to miss a game after already paying for it but if you look at the bigger picture it is only a small sacrifice for the good of the fans in the long term.

Fans seem to afraid to miss a game just incase they miss something amazing on the pitch. These days you dont get to see much unpredictablity on the pitch and you get to see very little flair now.

**AV writes: The cultural switch to seats and season tickets has taken away the one bit of power fans had. To stay away now hits US in the pockets and not the clubs.

Posted by: dave  | February 23, 2007 11:05 AM

Never Happy wrote...

I do not think Boro will make any statements on ticket prices until they are mathmatically sure of PL football next season.

If every season ticket holder wrote to the club and said that their intention was not to renew unless prices were reduced, I am sure this would make more of an impact on Boro than the FSF petition.

Boycotting games after you have already paid for your ticket seems to defeat the object.

Posted by: Never Happy  | February 23, 2007 12:27 PM

dave wrote...

"Boycotting games after you have already paid for your ticket seems to defeat the object."

not really, it shows intent that you are prepared to stop going next season(pay money) if you dont drop the prices.

Posted by: dave  | February 23, 2007 12:48 PM

Never Happy wrote...

Interesting article in the Independant shows that if enough fans sign the petition it maight just work.

**AV writes: Thanks, I've added that link to the body of the blog so people can click and go.

Posted by: Never Happy  | February 23, 2007 1:56 PM

dave wrote...

the problem with football is that there is no alternative. Either you pay and go or dont go at all.

With the stuff about banks, well thats a legal thing and with the utilities its losing customers that kicks them into action. Losing paying fans is the way clubs will take note. maybe extend that to cancelling sky sports aswell.

People power is the way to go these days. the problem is that in this country people moan but dont do anything about it. Imagine if clubs in spain, italy, germany and france charged teh same prices: there would be empty stadiums.

We over charge for some much in the entertainment business in this country. I remember going to the ashes test in sydney and a 5 day pass was the same price as a 1 day in the uk

Posted by: dave  | February 23, 2007 2:46 PM

beeline wrote...

"Either you pay and go or dont go at all."

Well, you can of course pay a lot less and get your ten penneth of entertainment Dave, although not necessarily on the field of play, as Harry Pearson reminded us today in this very funny piece:

http://sport.guardian.co.uk/columnists/story/0,,2019280,00.html

**AV writes: Ah yes, the harsh reality of the Northern League. I can heartily recommend pyramid passion to anyone as a stark antidote to all the prima donna fancy Dannery and institutional arrogance of the Premiership.

Posted by: beeline  | February 23, 2007 8:32 PM

Geoff Vickers wrote...

Anthony,

Totally agree with the sentiments of the campaign. I am still very concerned about the escalating wages of the players and their agents fees.

If the likes of the top four continue to pay outrageous sums for players the us and them divide will lead to a Super League.

Now how will that affect attendances?

**AV writes: Personally I would welcome a SuperLeague. The sooner the G-14 clubs bugger off and leave the rest of us to fight it out in a competitive league with a more sustainable financial structure the better.

Posted by: Geoff Vickers  | February 24, 2007 7:11 AM

geoff wrote...

Boro had no game, so off we went too watch darlo and to say we were stunned to find out it was £16 a head and £5 parking it turned out a dear day. Pricing even down in this league is over the top, the less the price the more will go.

I dont know what was wrong with the crowd at the reading game but it semed quiet and no atmosphere the noisey end tried there best but no reaction from the rest.

Posted by: geoff  | February 24, 2007 8:58 PM

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