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Massimo Attack Leaves Sour Taste

Posted by on February 5, 2007 2:04 PM | 

AT LAST! After five frustrating years Massimo Maccarone seems to have finally hit the target, the Macophobes will cry! As if those legendary last gasp UEFA Cup goals that fired us to Eindhoven weren't enough, he has now guaranteed his place in terrace folklore with what appears a clinically delivered knife in Steve McClaren's back.

His new deal at Siena safely signed, the bitter bundle of contradictions - he was universally lauded for firing Boro to Eindhoven but widely branded as "not good enough", cheered to the echo by some because he "tried" yet condemned by others for "having no heart", played over 100 games for the club but is still seen as not having had a chance - appears to have fired a parting string of stinging criticisms Boro's way.

The explosive quotes attributed to Maccarone - and there appear to be several versions depending on how generously they have been translated - were released by his Teesside based friend Sergio Peretti. He may well feel he is fighting his pal's corner but back in Italy his real agent is back-pedalling furiously.

Massimo's agent, Paolo Fabbri, says he 'has been unable to contact the player directly' (which is admittedly strange after a week of very close work on the move), but has serious misgivings about the accuracy of criticism.

"I am really doubtful whether Massimo would be so rude. Yes, he was very upset not to play more often, and yes, he might have specific points to make about McClaren and Southgate on a technical level - but I do not believe his frustrations go beyond that.

“It is said he didn’t like Middlesbrough as a club, yet I know for an absolute fact that was not true because he was always very complimentary about the stadium and the training ground, the fans and the entire organisation. When he knows what is being said in his name, I am sure Massimo will be pretty upset because it is just not his style to be so rude."

The Gazette was offered the statement first on the afternoon before the storm broke. Our response was 'we would like to talk to Massimo ourselves'.

But some other people didn't want to look a gift horse in the mouth on a day when Steve McClaren was naming an England squad and so the quotes popped up attributed to Massimo on Football Italia, Sky Sports and the BBC overnight and then spilled into the tabloids the following morning and have left the image of a bitter man.

Whatever their source, they have already been taken up as the truth by those who have had their prejudices confirmed. It is hard to put the genie in the bottle. And to be fair there are plenty of people who will be glad it is out there no matter who removed the cork. If you are inclined to use any scrap offered as a weapon to beat McClaren then this is a Godsend. There are plenty of people who will not care about the source of these quotes.

A lot of the alleged parting shots will be seen as the self-centred whining of a player who just didn't cut the mustard, but one volley - the scathing personal attack on the manager who signed him - will strike a chord with legions of fans who still lovingly nurse a grudge against McClaren. For them these quotes, whatever their pedigree, will be taken as gospel.

The wounded Gladiator portrayed in this rant could have been a pitchfork wielding Macophobe at the front of the mob, zealously pouring out invective on a message board or the Three Legends as he spat out his hateful verdict in Gazzetta dello Sport: "The ever smiling Steve ‘magnificent’ McClaren is certainly the most two faced and false person I’ve ever had the misfortune to meet in football."

You can feel the bile bubble up as the statement uses McClaren's 'magnificent' trademark superlative like a weapon. It is a word hawked up with exactly the same sneering, venomous tone as thousands of Teessiders have used over recent years; an explosive word hiding a multitude of spins; a part of the post-match PR gloss that defied reality and contained within it a kernel of contempt for the paying public who needed educating away from their foolish notions that they should expect entertainment; a word that was reclaimed, sharpened and hurled back as a perjorative missile in the political battle that raged in his last few years.

'Magnificent' is a suspiciously chosen word that will immediately have a large section of the Boro crowd nodding in agreement. As will the stinging accusation that the former boss was a fake and a hypocrite. The Massimo of these quotes is showing a ruthless streak that was missing on the pitch here, pushing a lot of the right buttons and he knows can get significant numbers on his side. It sounds more like a battle scarred Boro fan than any player, let alone a foreign player with faltering English.

But in an echo of his Boro career, after a bright start that earned plaudits and got sections of the fans on side the rant seems to have lost track, retreated into sullen subjectivity and started to miss the target.

“He disgusted me by leaving me on the bench for the Cup Final in 2004, after having told everyone I was his number one and that he was counting on me," Maccarone is said to have said. That won't play well with the public. Such a self-centred attitude misses the point. McClaren's mission was to win that day at Cardiff, to secure that elusive trophy and that meant picking his best team, not one based on pricetags or statements at a signing press conference years before. And almost everyone in the crowd at the Millenium Stadium would have picked in-form Joseph Job ahead of Maccarone based on displays that season.

And alright, Massimo may have been gutted at not playing in the final, who wouldn't be. Colin Cooper missed out too and he more than anyone could put together a case to be part of a triumph that would have meant far, far more to him that it ever could to the Italian. Ever professional Coops took the disappointment with dignity, as should Maccarone. And to attack McClaren over his decisions on a day when the result proved him right and when even the hardcore antis were singing his name seems politically inept by Maccarone's camp.

Then there is the swipe at Boro's training methods. "They are 25 years behind the rest of the world." But that just doesn''t stack up either. The consensus from all the players who have worked with McClaren, at Man U, Boro and England, even after they have left, is that whatever his other faults, coaching and technical preparation are his strong points. To attack Boro's back-room set-up flies in the face of the reality: a training facility that is the envy of the football world, an academy with a glowing reputation and a string of kids coming through the system into the first team, and a first ever trophy and forays into Europe. That can't be the result of a team that is so backward in its methods.

And there is an even bigger misjudgement in the attack on Gareth Southgate, a manager who is riding high in the popularity stakes on Teesside having eased the straps on the stifling tactical straitjacket McClaren had thrown around Boro, got rid of some of the deadwood and put together on of the best runs in the club's top flight history.

“When he was a player, he did nothing but tell me to resist McClaren’s mistreatment so when Southgate took over, he convinced me to stay at Middlesbrough," said the contentious missive . “He promised me I’d get to play six or eight consecutive games. He never kept his pledges. That might be the English way, but in my book every promise means something.”

Promises, like contracts, are broken every day in football. It is part of a pragmatism that is dictated by results and by the dynamics of the team. For any manager to promise any player a guaranteed game is foolhardy. What if said player is rubbish in the first two or three and is costing points? Does the manager persist because he he has given assurance to one player? Or does his duty to the rest of the team, the chairman and the supporters take precedence? If Southgate did break a promise - and we should be wary of taking the word of an agrieved ex-employee - then he did it for the right reasons. We should see such it mental toughness and willingness to dent egos as part of the formative process in the making of a manager.

There is another flash of that subjectivity as the statement bemoans his position over the past two seasons. “After having left you there to rot and told you to find another club, they have the gall to ask you to give your best for them, just because they’re short on players." Hold on mate. It's not just because they are short of players. You should give your best because you are a professional and you get paid £25,000 a week for the privilege fans will think. And you can hardly complain about not getting a chance then moan when it comes along.

For all the problems Massimo may have had at Boro - and you do have to sympathise with a young lad who works abroad and is not happy in the job - there is a certain lack of dignity about this. If he has had any part in it he should be ashamed at leaving such a mess in his wake.

Boro have paid him well, he has played in Europe, scored some iconic goals and got a UEFA Cup finalists' medal. He should go with good grace and, whoever the author of the statement, should channel his anger into resurrecting his flagging career.

**AV adds: This piece got caught up in the teeth of the Gazette machinery over the weekend and was frozen in cyberspace. It is still out there somewhere, being blown about like an empty crisp packet along the grass verge by the information super-highway. Our geeks have retrieved the main body of the blog but comments and links have all disappeared. Sorry.

Click here to read a statement from Massimo Maccarone following his departure from Middlesbrough Football Club.

Comments (30)

Ian Gill wrote...

I smell a cyber thief with ginger hair and a colgate ring of confidence. Probably thought the comments were so 'magnifient' they merited being locked away in a cyber safe.

'On another day' Maccarone would have got something out of his comments, he 'will fax worse than this and get a result'

Still we had a Mills bomb this morning exploding the myths around MacMoses. He certainly didnt think his coaching was 25 years behind the time but was not overcomplimentary about the old interpersonal skills.

When the fifty pence piece was launched it got the nickname of the dockers threepenny piece, that was soon changed to the Harold Wilson - two faced and many sided. Maybe it is time to rename the 20p coin the MacMoses.

**AV writes: I think you have a colourful imagination and a vastly inflated assessment of Boro et al's ability to dictate what is written on here. Besides, the ever smiling Smacnificent McClaren has far bigger worries in the press pack than little old me these days.

Boringly, it really was 'reasons' beyond my control'.

Posted by: Ian Gill  | February 5, 2007 3:16 PM

Never Happy wrote...

If any journalist bothered to do some research they would know that MacNegative never reads any newspapers and as such is oblivious to any criticism aimed at him. I am sure that he and Tony Blair are test tube twins that were seperated at birth.

Also, any time that Boro are doing well the Southern press will publish some crap to try and destable the club.

We were due to play the gooners, so some maggot on fleet street probably thought it was a good idea to try and throw a spanner in the works.

Look out for a Woodgate or Downing unhappy at the Boro story some time this week, after all we are due to play Chelsea next.

Posted by: Never Happy  | February 5, 2007 3:43 PM

Slim wrote...

My name is Sergio Peretti, but everyone knows me as, "Slim". I am a personal football coach. I coached Bolo (Zenden), Franck (Queudrue) And Massimo (Maccarone) whilst Steve McClaren was their manager.

I worked with Massimo for a total of three years and I released his press release on his behalf and with his authorisation. End of story.

I am not here to try and change public opinion, as it is clear that Massimo was not a success here on Teesside given the talent that he is. But as his personal football coach, his trusted friend, and as someone who knows exactly how he was treated, I am here to give people an insight as to why he under-performed.

There are many examples that could have been given but in the interest of brevity only a few were given to the press.

Steve McClaren and his coaching staff failed to understand Massimo as an individual and as a result they simply failed to understand how to bring out the very best of him.

I have lived and worked in and around Middlesbrough all my life and I am a Boro fan.

Gareth Southgate has owned up to the fact that it was a mistake to publicly promise Massimo a run of games and I applaud him for that. For me this shows that he is a fast learner and that he is prepared to listen.

My advice to Gareth is this. The coaching staff at this club deserve a medal for what they have done here. When the club was penniless they were fundamental in bringing it forwards and as such they truly deserve their place in the club’s history books.

But the times have changed and they have changed immensely. This is no longer a small club in Europe.
No. This is a big club that spends millions upon millions in players and in their wages. It is time that the club adopts "world vision" and go and actually see, learn and implement the very best that the world has to offer in terms of coaching as far as is possible.

Thanks to Steve Gibson it is no longer a question of money as it once was, now it is only a question of will.

As Massimo said, this club has the very best chairman anywhere in the Premiership. They have fans who are just simply amazing. The ground and the atmosphere at the ground gives you goose-pimples.

The training facilities are good. All it now needs for prolonged success is revolution and not evolution in the coaching department.


Posted by: Slim  | February 5, 2007 4:10 PM

Ian Gill wrote...

AV

I was joking, for me to imply that the MFC PR machine is capable of such machinations would require a leap of faith similar to time travel.

In my work we have situations where we have to send infomation to other parties via internet, sometimes we have to print off a copy and fax it because their systems can't access it even thought it has been confirmed they have received it. Very frustrating.

As for his smugness, I fear many members of the press are severely underwhelmed by him. Got off on the wrong foot by lunches with his favorites in the press corps during the world cup, leaking stories implying it was all Sven's fault, surrounding himself with special advisers, the slump in form culminating in the Croatia debacle.

Most people have discounted Maccarone's statements even though you can see bits that you suspect to be the truth. It is just another stick to beat Mac with.

**AV writes: I think that is right, people will just take out those bits out of the whole episode that are in tune with their own prejudices. It was ever thus.

Posted by: Ian Gill  | February 5, 2007 4:19 PM

red_rebel wrote...

Sergio, it is easy to blame McClaren for Massimo's failure but you can't make a silk purse out a sows ear. Maccarone was never physically up to the power and pace of the Premiership.

There are mistakes all along the line- the club for paying so much for 'potential', Massimo for not doing it when he had the chances, McCalren for persisting so long, the club for not shifting him when they could get some cash back and Massimo for not leaving at least two years ago.

He put in a lot of effort and scored two fantastic historic goals that made me explode with pride and so he will always be a legend at Boro but if you are honest you know on balance he was never worth the money.I hope he does well in Italy but having a pop was disappointing.


Posted by: red_rebel  | February 5, 2007 4:35 PM

Never Happy wrote...

Slim
So Maccarone's failure on Teesside was all down to the coaching staff's 'failure to understand him'? It seemed to me that he simply failed to cope with the speed of the PL, and also lacked the physical presence to make his mark.

He will always be fondly remembered by Boro fans for his contribution to our UEFA Cup final run, however to blame his failure on the coaching staff smacks of desperation.

Both Bolo and Franq were a success at the Boro under the same coaching staff.

Posted by: Never Happy  | February 5, 2007 4:44 PM

dave wrote...

Take out those to uefa cup goals and there wasnt much else from massimo. He didnt want a drop in wages and we wouldnt pay him off so we were stuck with him for another 2 years.

I'm grateful of those uefa cup goals but he isnt the first players to score important goals for boro and quickly move on. He should be grateful for boro in making him rich and contributing to the uefa cup.

I remember him crying at the carling cup final because he didnt make the team. Sums him up really as being a bit selfish when that day he should have been happy for the club and fans.

I didnt understand the ovations he kepts getting

as for sergio, none of his clients are sti l at the club so he realises he has to repair some damage at mfc if he wants future clients

Posted by: dave  | February 5, 2007 4:49 PM

alf wrote...

slim,

how can you blame the coaching staff when other strikers like jfh,yakubu and viduka have been a success. SInce leaving boro jfh cant score now

Posted by: alf  | February 5, 2007 4:51 PM

briggsy wrote...

Slim,

Nothing wrong with steve Mclaren and the coaching staff. They made history by winning boro their first major cup in 128 years. and made more history by getting to a uefa cup final and finishing in our best ever premier league finish.

To prove steve mclarens talent he is now a national coach.

I always thought massimo was a boo-boy at heart

Posted by: briggsy  | February 5, 2007 4:55 PM

red_rebel wrote...

And what does a 'personal football coach' do anyway?

What can you add that the club staff or expereinced former professionals and badged up coaches can't?

Posted by: red_rebel  | February 5, 2007 5:14 PM

Ian Gill wrote...

Slim and Briggsy

It takes two to tango, both parties have some responsibilty for the fact Massimo didnt make the grade.

To those who say Massimo shouldnt have been bought deny the fact he had talent but it was never fulfilled.

You are probably at the opposite ends of the spectrum over Missimo and MacMoses and the truth will lie somewhere between your views.

I have certainly never been guilty of being a Macophile whether of Italian or Yorkish origins, I always liked Massimo but could never justify a regular place from what I saw but that goes for several of the alternatives available.

Also I would find it difficult to mount a full scale defence of MacMoses as a Boro manager, the majority of Boro fans were not heartbroken when he left and I believe that, secretly, neither are the club.

I am sure he is a clever coach but some of his tactics beggared belief and he has been caught out being economical in his public utterances. He would make a great partner for Panesar.

Posted by: Ian Gill  | February 5, 2007 5:43 PM

Simon Conway Morris wrote...

Sergio

I'm sure Siena aren't at the vanguard of "world vision" coaching either. And how did McLaren help Man Utd to the treble with these 25 year old coaching techniques?

Seriously, tell Massimo from me he's a great lad, he always gave 110% and he'll always have a place in the hearts of all Boro fans. He's heroics against Basle & Steau Bucharest were UNFORGETABLE. And I remember the match away at Tottenham a few years ago. He played a blinder and I thought we were gonna qualify for the champions league the way we played that day; I've never seen such a performance.

And if he's feeling generous my bank account sort code is **-**-** Acc no. 34******7

Ci Vediamo piu tardi. Grazie Mille Massimo

**AV writes: Thanks, I've taken a tenner - then obscured the details just in case you really were daft enough to put the real thing up in public


Posted by: Simon Conway Morris  | February 5, 2007 5:47 PM

John Powls wrote...

Guys, guys - come on now.

Whatever the rights and wrongs of the Macca situation and 'Slim's' part in it I don't think he or Macca is saying anything about The Ex and his then coaching set up that hasn't been said on this blog and the Gazette MB - including by some regular correspondents on here - many, many times. And I include myself in that.

One step backwards Briggsy - I know you still have the MacShrine in your bedroom!

In fact, I'll go further and say that whilst things are improving under Gate and Coops I don't think we have lived down the MacLegacy-in-the-Round yet. And I'm not the only one who has said that. Now, who was it - oh yes, it was Gate and quite a few of the playing staff.

Since I'm also on the Gazette MB over the last couple of days saying that we are still not at the level of basic fitness and strength that we need to be to compete regularly with the best in the Prem I'm hardly going to say there aren't issues to address there either. And who was it that was doubling training sessions too, for the same reason - oh yes, that was Gate too wasn't it.

And while we're at it who was it that went into print in the Sunday Times on the morning of the FA Cup Final at Villa Park and slaughtered The Ex. Oh, yes - that was Gate too.

Gate also says, sometimes too often for my liking, that he is still learning - which must mean he feels we have more to do - I agree. If you stop learning and improving, by definiton, you are going backwards in a competitive situation. We should be learning from the best around and changing what we can.

And, apart from Pog (as he says he wants us to call him now) can anyone suggest a player we have bought in in recent years who we can claim to have improved as a player whilst with us? No, I can't either.

Or indeed a graduate of our rightly acclaimed Academy who has continued the rate of progress in the 1st team that they showed under Dave Parnaby rather than going backwards? No, me neither.

And how many blogs/postings have we exchanged about the 'mystery of Hurworth' which has lead to so many injuries on the training ground and, of late, the failure to be able to diagnose a fracture properly.

Just having the facilities and the kit doesn't mean we have people who know how to use it properly.

And this is all before we get onto Lambie and the commercial management of the club or Mr. Allen and the PR!!

So, I think we're improving but we have a way to go - whether that's by revolution - or more likely by evolution. Though we were pretty nearly all on the barricades when the Season ticket got launched.

In summary - though neither Macca nor Slim are in anything other than a glass house of their own making when they launch their stones we shouldn't come over all holier than thou either. I certainly won't.

Posted by: John Powls  | February 5, 2007 6:01 PM

Slim wrote...

I must firstly thank the Evening Gazette for allowing me to have my say but I can not tell my full story on here.

To you all let me say this.

Tonight I will post a FULL article of what was said and then I will be willing to debate this matter on my web site with anyone who wishes to quiz me. You can say what you want. I will not hide and I will answer everything.

You can say what you want. All I ask is that you read what I say before you say whatever you want.

I CHALLENGE ANYONE AT MFC TO TAKE LEGAL ACTION AND TO SUE ME IF THEY THINK I AM A LIAR AND I WILL PROVE TO YOU ALL THAT THE COACHING METHODOLOGY AT THIS CLUB IS IN FACT 25 YEARS OUT OF DATE.

It is unfair to have a go at me in here as I am unable to fully express my point of view and I cannot present ALL of the facts. My site is free of charge and you only need to register.

I AM WILLING TO PUT WHATEVER REPUTATION I HAVE ON THE LINE IN ORDER TO DEFEND WHAT HAS BEEN SAID BY MASSIMO AND BY MYSELF.

WWW.MYFOOTBALLCOACH.CO.UK

Slim


Posted by: Slim  | February 5, 2007 7:25 PM

briggsy wrote...

Slim,

can you say 100% that massimo said those comments?

Posted by: briggsy  | February 5, 2007 9:30 PM

Ian Gill wrote...

Slim

I will go and look ar what you have to say but before I do that I would like to remind you that in many cases you are pushing at an open door as far as criticism of MacMoses is concerned.

Many of us were unhappy with many of the things we could see, many of us from afar. There will also be many things he improved. Read John Powls above, he reflects many of our views and distilled them well.

Off to read your statement.

Posted by: Ian Gill  | February 5, 2007 10:34 PM

red_rebel wrote...

For me until Massimo himself comes out and says one way or the other that he authorised the statement in full then it remains some third party relating what he says his friend thinks.

And I always get a little worried when SOMEONE STARTS TO TYPE IN CAPITALS.

Posted by: red_rebel  | February 6, 2007 10:04 AM

alf wrote...

So nothing has changed really. well only apart from we now know that woodgate wants to keep his otions open until the summer. Otherwise he would sign for boro now

Posted by: alf  | February 6, 2007 1:33 PM

V Garstroke wrote...

Hello Slim,

Can't find any thing on your website about what you promised to write. The nation is waiting in anticipation

Did massimo macaronne pay you for your services?

Posted by: V Garstroke  | February 6, 2007 2:57 PM

Never Happy wrote...

Nice to see Woody starting for England.
But what is MacNegative taking in his tea to select the side that he has?

Phil Neville as LB, I always knew MaClaren would find a place for Neville in his side but left back.

I always thought that friendlies were a chance to blood new players in a meaningless game, we all know how many chances Phil Neville has had for England, I'll be biased but Andrew Taylor would be a much better selection.

No left sided midfielder, so the man who loves to keep it tight and narrow does it again. Why not Downing or Barry on the left and SWP on the right? To cap it all it's Lurch on his own up front supported by Dyer.

With all the talk of the Boro coaching set up and MaClaren's failings I can only see his reign as England coach ending in disaster.

Then again thats what many Boro fans predicted and Mr MaClaren seems to be going out of his way not to let them down.

Posted by: Never Happy  | February 6, 2007 4:31 PM

Slim wrote...

Hi everyone,

Firstly, Massimo personally authorised the statement, Massimo personally checked the statement, and Massimo personally signed each one I sent out.

I faxed them. I delivered one in person to the Gazette with his signature.

If that isn't good enough for people then so be it.

In every single paper his agent said that it was in fact Massimo's statement even though he felt it was ill advised.

Only after complaints from the FA did his agent start to wobble. This is nothing to do with me or Massimo.

No paper would have printed comments from a third party.

Everything is on my site. Go to the login/join button on the main page, resiter as usual and everything is on the second forum down.

Slim.

Posted by: Slim  | February 6, 2007 5:19 PM

dave wrote...

Steve Mclaren wil be out either end of the qualifiers if we dont make the euros or after the euros.

THe dilema for the FA is who can they replace him with.

A life managing in the championship beckons for steve mcclaren. eg like hoddle

Posted by: dave  | February 6, 2007 5:20 PM

Barnet Nigel wrote...

AV can we have something new to discuss now please? Massimo is history. Lets look forward.

How good is the 'Lion King', is he good enough to replace The Duke if he goes?

Bit of gossip, I understand that Woodie is having a home cinema fitted at his place in the Boro. The person that told me says this is proof he is staying in the Summer.... there we are then!

**AV writes. I think you are right. About moving on, not the conclusive evidence of the cinema.

Posted by: Barnet Nigel  | February 6, 2007 5:31 PM

Ian Gill wrote...

I think Woodie could afford to write off a home cinema system. Come to think of it he could probably afford a multiplex.

Posted by: Ian Gill  | February 6, 2007 9:46 PM

albo de mores wrote...

I think Massimo didn't perform only because the boro never had decent midfielders able to give him good balls. In fact, who used to make Mass score in the under 21??............Well,some one called Mr Andrea PIRLO !!!!!

I think signing a striker with the characteristic of Mass was a big mistake and it is normal that McLaren and Southgate, for the way they want their teams to play,prefer having 2 big strikers in the front.So I think Maccarone came here at the wrong time,in the wrong team with the wrong manager. At the time would have been better for him to sign for SPURS instead.

Posted by: albo de mores  | February 7, 2007 4:46 PM

tony black wrote...

Now then,

well, i've read all the comments on Slim's site and I have to say that there are some astonishing claims on there.

I'll be keen to see if the papers pick anymore of it up, especially given last nights game.

TB

Posted by: tony black  | February 8, 2007 7:54 AM

tony black wrote...

Now then people,

i have spent a bit longer looking through all these claims and counter claims and there are a couple of questions that spring to mind that must be answered even if you don't believe a word of what has been said by either Maccarone or Slim.

1. How is it possible that Slim has had access to all areas at MFC and it's training facilities ?

2. How is it possible that he was able to attend reserve training sessions starting from what goes on in the dressing room and then what goes on on the training pitch ?

3. Why was he ever allowed to train any of the MFC players, and why is he STILL doing so ?

4. Why don't the club put a total ban on these people ?

I think that whatever people may think of these claims that it is clear that Slim ( and very probably others ) are way too close as to the internal workings of MFC and this just can't be right and it just can't do the club any good.

Mr V, how is it possible that these things are allowed to happen? Forget specifics, and all the rest of the accusations of poor working practices,
this guy has given a very precise and detailed account of the dressing room goings on and so he must have been in there.

Can you shed any light on why this is allowed to happen ?

Is this the norm Mr V, or am I just being very paranoid ?

I would be interested in hearing what you think as you obviously have had a great deal of experience of these sorts of things over the years with your work e.t.c.

Cheers mate.

TB

Posted by: tony black  | February 8, 2007 3:15 PM

tom wrote...

slim you are talking rubbish its one persons fault and one persons only and thats maccarones and noone can defend him for that. its as simple as that. i will never doubt his work rate but he just didnt have the power or pace too challenge effectively with defencers week in week out.

Posted by: tom  | February 10, 2007 1:18 PM

tony black wrote...

Now then Tom,

I have written in this blogs lots as you can see and so I have decided to make this my last post !

Lets agree for a moment that you are totally correct.

Have you read Massimo's actual statement and Slim's reply to it from his site ( www.myfootballcoach.co.uk ) ?

All I know is this and this is what makes me believe that there has to be a lot in what they have said.

Massimo was here for nearly 5 years and in all that time he never caused trouble, internally or externally and he never once said a word out of turn. So he doesn't seem to be someone who likes to cause trouble or someone who likes to be confrontational.

So why did he speak out in such an emphatic way when he left ?

I understand that this topic has run its course as Massimo is now in the past, but I find much truth in what has been said.

TB

Posted by: tony black  | February 11, 2007 8:31 AM

e.barody wrote...

Good afternoon everyone,

my name is eamonn. I saw the advert in the gazette about the blog so here i am. This is my first post hopefully of many. I find it unacceptable that any player leaves a club in the manner that maccarone has done given the amount of money they have earned from the club.

Having said that i find what he said to be very telling indeed. I say this because i think that this was a player who didn't cause any trouble at the club as has already been said.

In five years he kept the peace and kept going with never a reported by word in any of the press about bad behaviour etc. When ravanelli was here we all knew about his punch up on the training ground and the arguments he caused on a regular basis. Why would maccarone say these things when he was never this kind of player ?

I realise that he never got on with mcclaren but his comments were mainly against the club and its outdated methods as he saw them.

Im not saying that its all true but having read his press release from the site given above and the follow up of his coach i just cannot but help think there has to be elements of truth, many elements in fact.

I also agree that it is beyond belief that many of our players have gone to see this man for coaching and that there isn't a bar on these people.

Perhaps it would be wise at the very least if mfc had an internal investigation to see if these claims were true simply in the interest of moving the club forwards, after all, ravanelli did say much the same when he left.

Had maccarone been a trouble maker then i would instantly dismiss everything that he said, but he wasnt and so i dont.

thanks.

eamonn.

**AV writes: Welcome abaord Eamonn

Posted by: e.barody  | February 11, 2007 4:54 PM

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