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Ticket Price Pegging Was A Qualified Success

Posted by on November 19, 2006 10:38 PM | 

THE SEASON'S best crowd so far by over a thousand - 31,424 - against Liverpool shows that Teesside's football public WILL respond to creative pricing initiatives. In that respect the club's experiment in scrapping the punative pricing for casual customers for what would normally have been a £31-£38 Category A game was a complete success. We must hope they repeat it.

However, judging by the post-match grumbles, the club were widely perceived as not having delivered on the other side of the equation: the game was a gritty defensive display but it lacked the zest of attacking flair, the excitement and goals from the home side that would have made it an unqualified success and provided undoubted value for money.

But the big question is, will those who gave Boro another chance against Liverpool do so again?


And that question is crucial to the way the season pans out. Those 10,000 or so "part-timers" are a vital ingredient to the club as an influx for big games provides not just revenue, but also offers the potential for the cracking atmosphere which is a key component of the product, and further, a compelling reason that people actually go: to be part of a crowd that is expressing itself in a vocal and passionate way. Getting involved. Feeling part of the action. Getting them thousands back on a regular basis can help galvanise the crowd and create a positive big game bandwagon that can drag more in and stop the rot in the Riverside matchday demeanour.

So how one off games boosted by ticket initiatives like the Liverpool one are received by the casual fans is extremely important - because unlike Red Book holders they do not have a financial imperitive to return next time irrespective of form, results or weather. Selling the next game to them is part of an on-going battle for hearts and minds that the club must win if they are to reignite the flames of passion around the club.

So it is unfortunate that the returning hoards saw a goalless draw on a freezing night in which the home keeper is the busiest player on the pitch and where there was little to cheer or warm the heart. There must be a fear that some, a lot even, left muttering about Boro 'never coming to see me when I was bad' and vowing "never again".

But we must also hope that enough will have seen a gritty, committed team that belied the gadge-in-the-pub consensus that the team was an easy touch and who took a good point from a team in the Champions League (and who despite a sluggish start will still be expected to be in Europe again next year) to come back again in the belief that goals - or at least the glimmer of an attacking zest - can be added to the endeavour in the future.

It is important that the club's U-turn on prices, a major political policy change, was a success at the gate. After two bad defeats, a televised game on a miserable night could easily have been an attendence disaster. That may have knocked price cutting off the agenda completely. As it was the people of Teesside did their bit. Now it is down to the club - on and off the pitch - to keep on doing theirs.


******

BORO'S sterile display up front offered a frightening glimpse of a Stewyless future.

Without Downing on the pitch as the chief creative outlet - no, let's be honest here, ONLY creative outlet - Boro struggled to offer anything that troubled Liverpool's defence at all. There was no pace, no invention, very few crosses finding their man in the box, no one dropping deep to demand the ball with the express intention of getting forward looking to hurt people... it was a deeply worrying sign of exactly how dependent the team is on one individual.

An injury to Downing right now doesn't bare thinking about.

Comments (17)

John Powls wrote...

Vic

The other problem is, of course, that every other team knows how dependent we are on Stewie. When he does play - and how we need him to - they know that all they have to do is stifle him and that's us done!

Of course, as at Watford recently, our so-far-temporary manager has sometimes done the job for them by putting him out on the right wing. Young Mozza showed the only signs of wanting to take Stewie's role on Saturday. Gate's response - take him off.

The run of fixtures coming up doesn't hold out the hope of anything much better than the grind we saw against the Scousers. So if we want to have a reasonable crowd again we have to continue to think of ways of enticing people away from the usual distractions in the run up to Xmas to watch dour defensive struggles.

If not jam today, then jam tomorrow?

The January window is crucial - again. Let's hope we don't have our usual January window performance.

Posted by: John Powls  | November 20, 2006 9:17 AM

Ian Gill wrote...

John and AV

The introduction of Maccarone was welcome, the removal of Morrison bizarre as he was the only person creating anything.

The obvious person to make way would have been Euell as Maccarone can give the ball away just as effectively as him but at least has some pace and when he shoots does get it in the general direction of the other goal.

If, as seems likely, Gate continues using 4-5-1 for the next few games then he will need to keep Morrison on to provide a foil for Downing.

There are many critics of Downing but his worth increases with each match he misses. Without him we are almost toothless. Play a four without Morrison to give some width you get the Gerrard scenario, when we get the ball all the opposition move 20 yards to their right safe in the knowledge that the part of the pitch vacated will not be used and that they can compress play and double up on Downing. In a midfield five it is downright bonkers.

Euell will not provide the link up play needed, you may as well play Cat and Boat and leave Roch free further up the pitch out of harms way where his tricks and eye for a ball are most suited.

It is Man Utd next at home and unless we start at a higher tempo and with width we may be in for a torrid evening.

I dont think Giggs, Ronaldo, Rooney and Saha will be as accomodating as the scousers. Before that of course we have the visit to Villa where a new manager has had a positive effect. We are taking my son off for few days to celebrate his 21'st so I will miss one of the few local matches I can go to. Last time we were off somewhere and played Villa it was the day of the flying season ticket.

Posted by: Ian Gill  | November 20, 2006 10:15 AM

John Powls wrote...

Ian

Oh - cheer me up, why don't you!

Posted by: John Powls  | November 20, 2006 10:26 AM

Ian Gill wrote...

John

I will do my best. So far I have garnered one point from all the matches seen live or on TV. I am unable to go to Villa and refuse to spoil your day out with Phil when you visit Spurs. So there is some positive news.

Sadly I will be watching the Man U game.

So you will just have to take the rough with the dog rough! As the chairman of MFI said 'as one door shuts another drops off!'

Altogether now to the tune of Brasil 'Paint dry, just like watching paint dry'. Oddly enough that is what I was doing last Saturday evening in the sitting room both on the ceiling and the TV.

Is that better?

Posted by: Ian Gill  | November 20, 2006 12:23 PM

Never Happy wrote...

If as expected we continue with a 4 - 5 -1 then surely GS could take a chance and play Downing and Johnson next to each other on the left of midfield.

We would then have 2 attacking players with a bit of pace to give the opposition someting to think about.

Morrison on the right, one holding player (Cattermole) and possibly Mendi as the other midfield player so that we have 4 midfielders with attacking intent.

However I know that with GS as manager and the coaching staff only ever thinking of keeping clean sheets that none of the above will happen.

It could be worse, we could be Charlton fans and have a new manager who has been at the club since Queen Victoria and coming out with the excuse of unfit players and needing to see how the team plays.

I wonder what he has been watching for the last 100 years during games.

Posted by: Never Happy  | November 20, 2006 12:47 PM

Andy wrote...

Anthony

Has your spel chekker brocken dawn? Southgate's means to an end may well pay dividends in the long run, but it's difficult to see where 25 points are going to appear from with our current coefficient of creativity

. I drove from Aberdeen for the gritty display and can tell you, it was much colder in Teesside. Or maybe it just seemed that way with what was on view...

Posted by: Andy  | November 20, 2006 12:58 PM

briggsy wrote...

I thought boateng was very poor and needs dropping.

I think downing is turning into a homer. He only plays well at the Riverside. We rely on him too much. its like at Everton with wayne rooney. everything had to go through him and when he had a poor game everton were clueless.

But when they sold him it allowed other players to get involved more and develop. Maybe we should look to sell downing for £20M then reinvest that in 3 new quality midfielders to balance the midfield?

Has anyone else noticed that we havent scored many goals this season. Ten league goals compared to 18 at the same point last season. Now who is really the negative manager? Southgate or Stevie Mac?

Posted by: briggsy  | November 20, 2006 1:09 PM

Nigel wrote...

To be positive we defended brilliantly on Saturday, which is just as well as at one stage I thought I was watching the Alamo, then I realised that at least ast the Alamo they managed one offensive sortie. However there is a solid foundation to build on!

The midfield however was a complete disaster. Boateng is either injured or woefully short of form and should be dropped, captain or not. Euell is a complete waste of space, why did we buy someone who couldn't make the Charlton team? Those two between them lost and gave away so much possesion its a miracle we didn't loose by a Twickenham score. Woodie and Pogatez were clearly 'in the zone' ... which was just as well.

Morrison did his best and is the best we have on the right and we should stick with him, the thought of Mendi or Parlour playing there makes me shudder.

As for the Yak he must have come off the field wondering if football really is a team game because he didn't see anyone from his own side all match. Clearly he was so confused when he was presented with an open goal he didn't recognise the ball.

Still providing we buy three midfield players of good quality in January then we wil be able to move on and see some of that attacking footbal GS is determined to introduce, he says....

The good news is on current form we are around sixth and I see Villa haven't lost at home yet so that's three points in the bag for Boro and we always beat Utd.....

Posted by: Nigel  | November 20, 2006 1:40 PM

Ian Gill wrote...

Briggsy:

I have seen Boro at Reading, Sheffield and Watford. Downing was about the only player who had a clue offensively. It is harder away from home to make any impact when all around you are playing poorly and there is no one to cross or pass to.

The other players are allowed to pass to someone on the same side, they are allowed to run forward, to trap the ball, to cross the half way line. They are also allowed to start playing at kick off. With someone on the right who will play there balance will be restored - currently that means Morrison. That will create some space.

I am sorry but no Downing means no creativity at all. Three birds in the bush may not match up to the one bird in our hand and the presumption of £20M is a tad optomistic.

As for the Mac vs Gate debate. We are where we are following deteriorating form since Xmas 2004. I stick by my view stated before Xmas 2005 that in the summer of 2006 we needed a shakedown whether Mac stayed or left.

The fact is that if he had stayed we would have had attendances below what we are getting now. He became immensely unpopular, not all his fault but he did work hard at it. It is not possible to change things overnight and the squad needs pruning

Posted by: Ian Gill  | November 20, 2006 2:13 PM

Never Happy wrote...

GS has major problems to overcome at Boro, some of which can be attributed to the mess that MaClaren left behind.

If Briggsy is still pining for MaClaren and his style of football he can not have been watching the woeful England performances since MaClaren took over.

I am more concerned at the mess Boro are in, I still think a change of coaching staff is needed, as the negative thinkers left behind by MaClaren seem to be having more and more influence on Boro style (or lack of it) of play.

Posted by: Never Happy  | November 20, 2006 4:43 PM

Adam Newton wrote...

I int gonig to no more macthes till we stop playing pap, like!

Posted by: Adam Newton  | November 20, 2006 9:22 PM

Jay wrote...

Aaagggghhhh!!!!!!!!!!!! I was going to post about how bizarre that people were trying to get the club to sell Downing ('we could buy 3 good players with the money' = Euell, Arca and Rocky.) Guess what! Someone says it again.

So without Downing we are pap.

So sell Downing!

Aaaaaagggghhhhhhhhh!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: Jay  | November 21, 2006 4:56 AM

Ian Gill wrote...

Jay

I understand the Aaaggghhhh!!!!!!'s in your posting.

What baffles me is that the topic keeps returning. The logic to me is that if Downing is double marked so is less effective than he would be when single marked, there must be space elswhere for someone to exploit.

If there isnt there are three possible reasons:

1. the other team have twelve men on the pitch not including the referee and his merry persons (Im no Mike Newell)

2. We are playing like we have ten men - my favourite at the moment though you could argue that ten is optimistic.

3. We have no one right side to balance up the team.

Sadly the other logic appears to be that Downing clears the ball off his own goal line from a corner to himself in midfield, he plays a neat one two with himself to put himself one on one with the full back, skins the fullback and puts a superb cross in to himself at the far post where he soars to head past the keeper. If he doesnt do it three times a game sell him cos he is rubbish.

Aaaaggghhhhh!!!!!! followed by a shake of the head.

**AV writes: Sound of hooters, applause and champagne corks popping. Congratulations Ian, you have posted the 1000th comment on this blog.

Posted by: Ian Gill  | November 21, 2006 12:42 PM

alf wrote...

Boro fans have never had it so good, yet we stil like to moan. just look at where wolves,forest,sunderland are now compared to boro.

Posted by: alf  | November 21, 2006 3:16 PM

Esky wrote...

as long as i can get a pint at the game i will still go no matter what.

Posted by: Esky  | November 21, 2006 3:18 PM

Clive Hurren wrote...

Sadly I was at the Liverpool "game". Sadly, I fear I'll have to watch many more such negative displays this season, unless I throw my season ticket at the coaching staff.

I ain't going to any more away games, though, until we improve (except Blackburn which is only 15 miles from where I live).

As someone above said, defensively we were brilliant against L'pool. So Gate's master plan of boring the opposition into submission has now worked for 2 successive games. Unfortunately, I've spotted a flaw..... if the opposition score, we've lost. End of story.

Because if they do (and I rather suspect that Villa, Spurs and Man U will do just that), then we sure as hell ain't gonna equalise, not with the 4-5-1 we're currently using.

Sure, the squad's not strong enough - Mendy, Parlour (Who?), Euell, Rocky and currently even Boat aren't up to it, and with just Yak up front, we are toothless, boring and very easy to repel.

We not only need new faces, we need an urgent change of tactics. We've fought our way back to some sort of mid-table respectability, and I suppose there was a short-term need to put up the shutters, but now we need to go for the jugular and score some goals.

It's a simple game, really .... just score 1 more than they do. Or even score at all.

Posted by: Clive Hurren  | November 21, 2006 8:18 PM

Nigel wrote...

There is no logic behind the suggestion of selling Downing. Which club manager in his right mind would sell his team's best player out of choice?

Especiallyso you can then buy three players who by extension of the same logic are going to be of lesser ability. So where does that leave you? With a team who overall have less ability than before you sold your star player!

I know that GS is on a steep learning curve but hopefully he knows to keep his best players, get the best out of the rest and dump the has beens at the first opportunity. You don't need a pro-licence to work that one out.

Being an eternal optimist I do believe there are positive signs of the Boro improving. The defence is looking top notch and everyone knows all the best teams start with a mean defence. There is a lot of work to do in midfield and attack but Rome wasn't built in a day.

I'm quite happy for the Boro to play defensively away from home, but I would like a more positive attitude at home.

On reflection, looking back at the Liverpool result, a draw wasn't so bad given that Downing was absent and Boateng had a nightmare. The poor results were the previous one's against Sheff. Utd. etc.

What I would like to see is Euell out and Maccarone in, he might just contribute the odd goal or two.

Posted by: Nigel  | November 22, 2006 12:18 PM

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