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Boro Goal Machine Deserves Recognition

Posted by on October 5, 2006 10:07 AM | 

WHOOAAH! What the... one wrong key and whoosh - yesterday was zapped into cyber-space in the blink of an eye. Still, another day another dollar.

ALL HAIL George Camsell! The too often overlooked Boro goal machine needs rehabilitating.

Camsell is Boro's greatest ever goalscorer with an incredible 345. But he is England's top goalscorer too having set an incredible net-busting pace of two goals per game in his all too brief international career. His ratio will almost certainly never be bettered - unless a one cap wonder hits a hat-trick then disappears into obscurity. Back to Melchester or somewhere.

The prospect of Liverpool's million-pound-per foot-hitman Peter Crouch closing in on an unlikely modern goal-a-game record on Saturday has prompted me to dig out something that was thrown back into public consciousness after the last tedious international break.

Camsell's name was bandied about, almost begrudgingly. But he deserves more. When the pundits reel off the list of England goalscoring greats - Charlton, Greaves, Lofthouse, Dean, Lineker - he is almost always overlooked. He deserves recognition for what is a quite breath-takingly prolific international striking record.

Crouch has scored 11 in 14 games for England and five in three under McClaren, which is a respectable strike rate of that puts him up with the best in the modern era and most prolific since Jimmy Greaves - but it is nowhere near the dramatic impact deadly Camsell made back in the twenties and thirties.

Camsell top scored for Boro ten seasons in a row from 1926-27 onwards. That first year he fired in a staggering 59 league goals to spearhead Boro's second divsion title victory but was cruelly denied immortality when Dixie Dean topped it for Everton the following year. Only twice in that decade did his league tally dip below 20 goals.

For England he was staggeringly prolific too. He struck a magnificent 18 goals in nine games in two spells separated by an inexplicable five year gap. H egot an eye-catching 11 in his first four games in a blistering debut year.

Back then there were no 12 game European Championship or World Cup qualifying campaigns or pointless friendlies in other time zones. Generally the action was limited to Home International and the occasional post-season challenge match with rivals within easy travelling distance. His record was:

May 1929 (a) France W 4-2 (2 goals)
May 1929 (a) Belgium W 5-2 (4 goals)
Oct 1929 (a) N Ireland W 3-0 (2 goals)
Nov 1929 (h) Wales W 6-0 (3 goals)
Dec 1934 (h) France W 4-1 (2 goals)
Dec 1935 (h) Germany 3-0 (2 goals)
Apr 1936 (h) Scotland D 1-1 (I goal)
May 1936 (a) Austria L 1-2 (1 goal)
May 1936 (a) Belgium L 2-3 (1 goal)

Not bad eh? Of course back then there were easy games. But none of his contemporaries came anywhere near his strike rate. Dixie Dean played alongside and scored a fantastic 18 in 16 games but that fell short of the pace set by Camsell.

Camsell tops the goals-per-game ratio by what looks an unsurpassable margin. Look:

Camsell (1929-36) 18 in 9 -2.00 per game
Viv Woodward (1903-11) 29 in 23 - 1.26
Steve Bloomer (1895-07) 28 in 23 - 1.26
Tinsley Lindsey (1886-91) 15 in 13 - 1.15
Dixie Dean (1927-25) 18 in 16 - 1.12
Tommy Lawton (1939-49) 22 in 23 - 0/95
Stan Mortenson (1947-54) 23 in 25 - 0.92
Lofthouse (1951-59) 30 in 33 - 0.91
Jimmy Greaves (1959-67) 44 in 57 - 0.86
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Peter Crouch (1995-) 11 in 14 - 0.83.

Earlier this season Boro were canvassing suggestions for a club hero that may fill a third plinth down by the stadium. Hmmmm. Any ideas?

Comments (7)

Ian Gill wrote...

Well Vic,

So yesterday disappeared into the ether, airbrushed out of existence just like TLF was by Mac in pre season before we paid him to leave.

Is Vic a double agent for the club diseminationg misinformation or is he as banana fingered as the rest of us? Is Vic doing a New Labour and burying bad news behind another story? I feel a Panorama special coming on 'Blog-gate and Vic, the story behind the missing Blogs' You will have to come clean on this one Vic.

* AV writes:

LOL. I lean more to the cock-up rather than conspiracy theory. I am now awaiting orders from the club as to what to write about next.

Posted by: Ian Gill  | October 5, 2006 11:30 AM

Nigel wrote...

Now George Camsell is a legend, unlike Bernie(!!), so a statue would clearly be justified.

Personally I would choose a statue of Juninho because he personifies the Riverside era to date and apart from his genius happened to be Brazil's no. 10 when he joined Boro.

Posted by: Nigel  | October 5, 2006 12:31 PM

Don wrote...

Many thanks. I enjoyed your piece on George Camsell. My support for the Boro started in the 1920s, so I did see a lot of George.

The last time I remember was in 1938, when we beat Arsenal at Highbury 2-1 - and that didn't happen very often, only once more, I think. A very young Wilf Mannion scored the first and George got the winner.

I believe he played a few more games after that - a few in war-time football, but he had already been succeeded as first choice by Mick Fenton (another of my idols).

I've always rated the 1938-39 team as our greatest, but have always chosen George in a best eleven, even above Brian Clough - just !

Posted by: Don  | October 5, 2006 3:01 PM

Don wrote...

Just one little addition: I was very pleased to see one of George Camsell's England shirts in a display cabinet at the Riverside.

Posted by: Don  | October 5, 2006 3:24 PM

Ian Gill wrote...

Onto the actual blog as it hasnt disappeared yet.

I am too young for Camsell but my dad never talked about him, only Mannion and co. Odd really because he was playing when my father was young, I would have thought he made an impression even allowing for the lack of media.

The problem of any statue are the memories they evoke. There again if we were able to have one on the pitch in Ricketts there is no reason we cant celebrate past heroes outside the ground.

Posted by: Ian Gill  | October 5, 2006 4:35 PM

Paul Bell wrote...

Oi, Vickers. Can you think of an original subject rather than pinching things off FMTTM and Sky.

Posted by: Paul Bell  | October 5, 2006 5:46 PM

wow gold wrote...

am too young for Camsell but my dad never talked about him

wow gold

Posted by: wow gold  | October 24, 2007 5:39 AM

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