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Signing Hopes Fading Into The Distan?

Posted by on August 17, 2006 11:14 PM | 

JUDGING by the reaction of Gareth Southgate to an unusally direct question at Boro's pre-Reading press conference today, the chances of signing Manchester City defender Sylvain Distin are fading fast.

Amid the usual tame questioning that invites all the easy headline cliches Southgate was suddenly faced with a very simple inquiry. Having established that the fee had been agreed, that Boro's moneymen had spoken to his people, and that Southgate had spoken to Distin to "sell" the club in football terms, he was asked: "Do you think he will sign for Boro then?"

This was a golden opportunity for Southgate to assert confidently that yes, he did think that Distin would sign. Obviously, he may have continued, there were hurdles to be overcome, still have to thrash out the details, blah blah blah, but yes I think he will come.

In fact he retreated into managerspeak and an explanation of the on-going complexities that suggested that a deal is far from complete and the manager is far from confident that it can be sealed successfully. The recruitment position now appears far less certain than the new bosses' assertion a week ago that two signings "were close".

Of course there are reasons for these things, 40,000 of them. Distin appears to be a canny operator who has played off Boro's interest against City's desire for him to sign a new deal that has been improved significantly over the course of the saga. Talk of money-bags Portsmouth's interest will raise the bar further,

And the back-tracking on a move that seemed a formality once Boro's bid was accepted - and a similar situation looming over Blackburn's Brett Emerton - was accompanied by some phraseology that reinforced the impression that new signings were perhaps not so pressing.

"If we can add to the current squad then fantastic," he said. "We want to do that and we are trying but the important thing to remember is that I'm very happy with the squad that we have.

“I have said all along that the players in the dressing room are good enough tob take us up the table. We under-achieved in the Premiership last season mainly because we were concentrating on the two cup competitions. We are not in Europe this season and I believe that we are good enough to make an impact with the players we have got."

To say that he is happy to go with what he has got is a considerable political move away from the earlier position of having identified areas where the team clearly needed strengthening. You wonder what George Boateng, who has consistantly said the club need three more new faces, will make of it. And indeed, you wonder what already anxious supporters will make of it when even the most optimistic have serious doubts about the defence and a string of moves have collapsed in a frustrating summer.

That said it could be shrewd mindgames,the publicly stated notion that Boro are happy to start the season as they are being used to quash the impression of rising desperation and to counter Distin and Emerton's belief that having the club over a barrel they can write themselves a blank cheque. It could be, but you get the impression that Southgate is too honest and principled to indulge in such devious black propaganda.


Comments (9)

Borolad32 wrote...

Boro's transfer dealings so far this summer can be summed up in one word.
PATHETIC!!

Posted by: Borolad32  | August 18, 2006 10:56 AM

Lee Drury wrote...

Southgate is doing what he has to do now that he is boss.
I am sure if he was still just a player he would be very critical of the situation we find ourselves in.

It will be interesting to see what Boeteng says if we fail to get anybody in. You can bet on it that now he is captain he will have to backtrack on what he said about needing new players.

I really do feel that Boro must get off to a good start this weekend, because I cant remember such doom and gloom before a season. If we could get a win ,that would lift us all, and maybe disguise the fact for a while that we are a very poor side and in for a long hard season.

Posted by: Lee Drury  | August 18, 2006 10:57 AM

Ian Gill wrote...

The whys and wherefores of the usual transfer window brinkmanship are a sideshow.

The main issue now is how good is the current squad, we have been told before that each ensuing squad is the strongest ever. This squad does have areas weaker than others, but that is the same of most of the premiership teams.

As I posted on the message board if this squad is not strong enough to stay in the premiership then we have been sold a bum steer.

If the likes of Mendi, Parlour and Ugo cant make a contribution why are we paying them?

To name but a few if we cant get a decent centre back pairing out of Riggott, Pogo, Bates, Davies or Wheater, a left back out of Arca, Pogo and Taylor, a right back out of Parnaby or Mcmahon, a midfield out of Boat, Cat, Roch, Kennedy, Morrison, Downing, Johnson, strikers out of Vids, Yak, Macca and Christie plus contributions from the elder statesmen already mentioned and other kids coming through then we ought to be phoning Watchdog and invoking the Sale of Goods Act about fitness for purpose.

We should also be questioning why we are paying wages to these people if they are not good enough. We will play maybe 20 games less than last season so we should be able to keep enough players fit to put out competitive teams.

Without good quality new signings we may not be able to progress as we wish, if so, it is up to the players we already have to prove us all wrong and take us forward.

It doesnt mean I am not concerned, would have loved Malbranque, Huth, Ballack, Rosicky, Carrick to have signed for us but they havent so we just have to get on with it.

Roll on Reading.

Posted by: Ian Gill  | August 18, 2006 11:25 AM

John Powls wrote...

Vic

What this pre-season does tell us is what many have written on this blog and elsewhere many times before - that our transfer strategy and how we operate it are utterly bankrupt.

Gate can (barely) get away with the sort of wide-eyed ingenue statements he has made recently about not realising how complex and difficult it is to get people in - added to the reluctance of people to come to Middlesbrough and Boro.

But if he doesn't know he should ask and get support from those who do or should know. And maybe he has. The logical place to go would be Messrs Lamb and Mackay - but form over many seasons would tell you that that's like asking Sweeney Todd's advice on a pain free haircut.

Since he now must know - as failure has built on failure - that they know diddly squat he is entitled, with the evidence of his experience, to insist that the Chairman back him by getting him support from people who are actually competent.

I know Gibbo hates agents but one way to get his own back would be to take a leaf from the Chelsea book and turn a poacher into gamekeeper and employ one of the cleaner agents to lead for us and to sort out our strategy and operations for the future.

Of course, it's not just the current failures. What message does each new debacle give the next target about why they should come to Boro when so many others have turned us down? What message does it give those currently here and marketable about why they should stay?

On where we go from here I'm short of any ideas on central defenders that might be in our range and be better than what we've got. But why not Gera for the right midfield? Surely we're not arguing that West Bromwich is any more lovely than Middlesbrough or that a Prem opportunity wouldn't be a lure. Or that working for Gate doesn't trump working for Robbo.

Or are we now afraid that we'll get another, even more embarrassing snub?

Posted by: John Powls  | August 18, 2006 12:06 PM

Pinkers wrote...

The giant leap backwards we seem to have taken this summer is a huge concern, and make no mistake we are in for a relegation battle.

The most worrying aspect is our almost comically weak looking defence. As we all know it was not up to scratch last year and shipped goals alarmingly, particularly against big strong forwards.

So what have done about it - lost our two best defenders in Southgate and Queudrue, (one to a rival club), and replaced them with a five foot nothing midfielder who played left back last season for the worst defence in the history of the Prem.

Indeed we are so desperate we are going for a player who we know has already turned down £40k a week, and left Newcastle a few years back because they refused to be held to ransom by another mercenary. (And this is the club that actually PAYS Kieran Dyer a wage, and coughed up £13m for the dream pairing, of Bramble and Boumsong.)

The Distin saga also begs the question how a frankly average centre-half is worth the same wages that JFH, a top striker, and scorer of 17 goals last season that we will HUGELY miss this season, was not worth. Still at least he didn't join a club we will be fighting tooth and nail against next season. D'oh!

Of our centre backs, only Riggott is of the required standard and proven at this level. And he does not exactly have a good record with injury. When he is inevitably injured/banned who the hell will we play?

Of the rest Ugo is clearly finished, Davies seems to have been deemed not up to it by the previous and current regime, and Bates and Wheater, promising as they are, have only a handful of games between them.

I refuse to even consider Manu 'send me off' Pogostick. Frankly the standard of his football is a joke, and he seems to have none of the key skills required. If only the position of 'Uncoordinated psycho' was what we needed to fill he would of course be a shoe-in.

He is surely the kind of not-really-a-footballer footballers that only Souness signs isn't he? It begs the question, once again, why was Franck allowed to leave? Aside from being the best left-back at the club, (including Arca), barring Riggott, he was also the best centre half.

Still at least he didn't go to a rival club. Oh, wait, he did too.

God help us tomorrow against 6'3'' Kitson, because none of Parnaby, Bates or Arca will be beating him in the air, so it'll be a long 90mins for Riggs. Still at least our next game is against Chelsea - that should be easy. Indeed looking at our opening fixtures it is quite conceivable that by September we will have not a single point on the board.

Finally, WHY when we are patently desperate for a commanding centre-half, have we not signed Huth?!?! He has an ankle injury for the love of God. Can anyone name the last 21 year old whose career was ended by an ankle injury? No, me neither.

I'm sorry to say it, but MFC have badly let themselves and the fans down with every decision they have made this summer.

Posted by: Pinkers  | August 18, 2006 1:50 PM

chris wrote...

Well sorry to sound like a pessimist but does anyone else think that the reason players are not signing for the Boro is that they do not believe Gareth can do the job and in actual fact we are prime candidates for relegation under his control?

Boro have never been short of money for the right signings for quite a while and in fact the money was there for Distin .so what is the problem?

To say the wages is rubbish. The boro knew the wages before trying to sign him and in fact have paid....lots...lots more in the past.

I think we need to look at the obvious...a man who does not have a clue about the job and in actual fact has not been told he is allowed to do it by the FA and may be on his way within a few weeks.

Posted by: chris  | August 18, 2006 2:19 PM

Lee Drury wrote...

To hear 'so called' Boro fan Jeff Winter telling us fans to get behind the team makes my blood boil.

Can you tell me Vic why on earth he was given his own column in the Gazette? No-one cared what he had to say when he was a ref, and they certainly dont care now he is back to being a 'big' Boro fan (give me a break).

I just dont understand why the Gazette would think anybody cares what a ref thinks, and especially Jeff Winter. Just get back to being the big Boro fan like you are Jeff and quit telling us how to support OUR team.

Posted by: Lee Drury  | August 18, 2006 2:23 PM

Garry wrote...

First things first, whilst the current situation is far from great it is nowhere near as bad as some would have you believe.

I am however somewhat confused by our dealings in the transfer market. Distin is and always has been a bit of a mercenary. His wage demands at City have been well documented in the media so you would imagine that Boro had considered this prior to spending weeks and weeks haggling about a transfer fee.

Why go through all that pain when the deal is doomed right from the start because we will not pay the crazy weekly salary that Distin demands? Did we think that having turned down 40k a week at City that he would except any less from us?? Surely not.

I have no idea on what is going on with the Huth deal it just seems to have dropped out of the news. As things stand it appears it is dead in the water.

As far as Brett Emerton goes I for one will not be losing any sleep over the fact that he will not be joining us. In my humble opinion he is no better than any of the options we currently have in right midfield. To be honest I'd rather play Mendi on the right, even if it isn't is strongest position, and have Morrison as cover. At least until we can find somebody who will actually be an improvement.

Anyway despite the disappointments of the transfer market and a poor pre season run of games I still believe that we have enough about us to be well clear of the relegation zone and possibly finish top half of the table.

We have an awesome front line, we have one of the best left sided midfielders in the premiership, and provided that Rochemback starts to fufil some of the promise we saw last season we are strong in central midfield as well.

Add to that one of the better goalkeepers in the premiership in the form of Schwarzer and the still improving Chris Riggot then we have a lot to be grateful for. Although it is early days yet I was also impressed with Arca's performance in the Chievo game.

Add to that some of the promising talent coming through the ranks and the situation is clearly not as bad as some would have you believe.

Posted by: Garry  | August 18, 2006 2:58 PM

geoff wrote...

After watching Sky today they say gareths time can only be 3months because he hasnt the right badges or the club will have too face the prem league for breach of the rules and we all know what happens when we go there - what more points deducted. So why make him the boss in the first place ?!!!

We let jimmy go and keep Ugo who is well past his sell by date sorry to be blunt but everyone I talk too has the same opinion.

We came up against some decent defenders in the Uefa cup last season surely one of those would love to come here and not at a kings ransom.

Posted by: geoff  | August 20, 2006 9:52 PM

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