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Letter Tote Result: S and T - 9,200 Shares

Posted by on May 2, 2006 11:28 AM | 

"HELLO and welcome to this special one-off National Lottery Live draw, live and direct from the Riverside Stadium .

"Dale Winton couldn't make it tonight as he had a pressing engagement in the Permatan spray shop so it is me, ubiquitous Teessider Mark Benton, stood outside the old Ayresome Park gates. And remember it's 'new customers only'.... woah, fella, put the gun down, it was only a joke. And none of that chew about giving my balls a shake neither.

"Earlier today a random member of the public, a Mr Keith Lamb of Eaglescliffe, selected lottery machine Juninho and set of balls number two and we have a special guest adjudicator Mr Ray 'Robocop' Mallon to oversee fair play for this keenly awaited draw, a bumper ticket fest with 9,200 lucky winners. Will you be one?"

Tonight's draw for Eindhoven tickets should be beamed live to homes across Teesside. It would be gripping, it will be dramatic and it will be emotional. Viewers would be in a state of heightened emotional turmoil and every twist would pile on the tension. Where is Boro TV when you need it?

That the decision on whether life long fans get to see their heroes in the UEFA Cup final action comes down to ticket office staff pulling envelopes out of a sack behind closed doors is an invitation to conspiracists and bitterness. There is no doubt that the dark whispers will begin almost immediately. That friends of officials or Bulkhaul employees won eight each while Joe Soap's envelope never even went in. That envelopes with certain postcodes or marked 'club flight please' were favoured. That paranoia is inevitable.

But there is no other way of doing it. Given the timescale and the lack of precedent or specialist equipment what else can Boro do? Even starting at patron number S000001 and working up is flawed because the digits actually mean nothing, other than the order the envelopes were opened on that fateful day back in Year Zero. Besides S000001 might be in the same envelope as T23889. Then what?

An open draw is the only way. But maybe it should be really open? Open to scrutiny. Maybe Robocop really should be there as an adjudicator. Maybe supporters and the press should be there to ensure fair play. Maybe the Boro should sell tickets. There would certainly be enough interest.

The next problem is notification. Are the ticket office going to make 9,200 calls over the next few days? That would prompt a wave of absenteeism in key industries and Teesside would grind to a halt as anxious fans sit by the phone. Cold callers offering low interest loans and mobiles are going to get even more abrupt refusals than normal. Annd telecoms companies will be inundated with angry demands that they "check this bloody phone line now".

Maybe the club plan to put the list of lucky winners on the world's biggest press release to be printed in a GCSE results style eight page supplement in the Gazette. That would be some sales boost.

Or perhaps they could pin the chosen names to the Ayresome Gates as in some medieval proclamation. It would be like radical German Godbotherer Martin Luther banging his troublesome list on the church door at Worms only it would cause more European turmoil and bloodshed.

However the club do this there will be thoudsands of diehard fans with legitimate grievances. They know that and ticket staff will be dreading the phone starting to ring over the next few days. But they must listen. These people are th emost loyal and valued fans and can't be given short shrift. The club should put in place a sympathetic complaints procedure and should announce they will do their utmost to correct any anomalies.

There will for instance be cases of legitimate S and T winners handing their ticket on to family and friends who are not entitled to it. They are are in effect cynically stealing the dream moment of glory from someone with ten years Red Book service and loyalty who deserve it more.

The club should stress with every ticket that goes out that they are NOT TRANSFERABLE. Anyone who is caught breaking that stipulation should be denied future priority and the tickets seized. Anyone who later finds they can't go after all should be encouraged to hand their ticket back. They can go back into the pot for a clearing system redraw with any returned by Sevilla (unlikely admittedly) a few days before the game.

This process is going to hurt a lot of people. Everything must be done in the most transparent and fair way possible to minimse the pain of the losers and maximise the number of tickets that get into the most deserving hands.


Comments (11)

Ron Elliott wrote...

I understand the club finds itself in some difficulty and that to find the perfect allocation system is almost impossible, however, it is my view that the club could help itself and reward the regular punters as well as giving priority to the longest serving season ticket holders

My system would be that the club holds a data base of tickets sold, each S and T holder would be given 20 points at the start of a season, increasing by 1 point for each season in the future years, the other holders would be given 1 point for each year thay had held a season ticket.

Each time a supporter buys a match ticket the club awards them another point, so for example the supporters who buy tickets for the cup games and away games can start to accumulate additional points, the result should then as the season progresses start to reward the people who attend the most games

The information should be available to view via the club website, the priority order can be updated weekly as the season progesses - in other words the original supportes get a head start, more recent ticket holders get recognition, loyalty is rewarded, the attendances should rise as people want to keep their standing in the list

None season ticket holders would register for the database and accumulate points for games attended.

There are still things to overcome, selling on of tickets, etc but if we use this as a base both club and supporters will benefit from a more even, open and transparent system

Posted by: Ron Elliott  | May 2, 2006 1:02 PM

andrew atkinson wrote...

there must have been a fairer way than this rewarding people that have travelled to away games at home & abroad as well as those attending cup games at the riverside

Posted by: andrew atkinson  | May 2, 2006 4:17 PM

steve Lynas wrote...

Can I just respond to your article regarding the ticket allocation for the final.

While it is commendable that S & T season ticket holders have, as you put it, paid somehwere in the region of £3,000 over the years for their season tickets, some people have paid over £3,000 THIS SEASON following the Boro on their travels including going to the majority, if not all, of Boro's away European matches.

How hard would it be; in this day and age of the computer; to be able to call up the list of tickets sold and the list of patron numbers who bought them and give those afore-mentioned patron numbers, a guaranteed cup final ticket.
It's not rocket science!

If those older season ticket holders are to be applauded for their support….why was there only 2,000 of us at Bucharest….and Basle……and Roma…need I go on???????

Posted by: steve Lynas  | May 2, 2006 11:11 PM

k gallagher wrote...

lets hope as many of you loyal supporters get your most just deserts with the shamefully small allocation, but perhaps most importantly lets win the cup!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: k gallagher  | May 3, 2006 1:20 PM

IAN wrote...

No surprise that ticket allocation crops up again.

Oddly enough this is easier than the Carling Cup because then there were tickets available to the general public. The problem at that time was season ticket holders giving their stubs to friends and the fact people could buy multiple tickets depriving many people who had genuinely attended the cup matches getting a ticket, eg me! And I wasnt a deserving case compared to many.

The club are between a rock and a hard place but they can differentiate between season ticket holders and those who have attended cup matches can get priority.

It is simply a case of managing the database. The counter argument is that if you have had a season ticket since the Roman invasion you have invested in the club for a long time and have seen some dross over a long period. That deserves some loyalty. No right answer, probably easier to bring peace to the middle east.

Posted by: IAN  | May 3, 2006 2:09 PM

Caroline Walker wrote...

Rewarding season ticket holders with priority Cup tickets is the one way of ensuring vital season ticket sales.

If this was taken away how many people would revert to match by match tickets thus taking away important pre-season transfer revenue from the club?

No system is ever going to make everybody happy when there are not enough tickets to go round. Yes, I salute those who have travelled to Rome, Basle etc etc but there are also those of us who stood on the terraces at Ayresome in the 70's and 80's with 3/4,000 others on a cold wet Wednesday. who's to say which is the most loyal supporter?

Posted by: Caroline Walker  | May 3, 2006 3:34 PM

Mike wrote...

I agree with Caroline Walker. I hear all the time that I am a part time supporter. In the 70s and 80s I was one of a few friends who attended those games (and often away).

Many of my friends are red book holders now. I am not because I moved away to college and to find work. I still attended (and attend) matches when I could (and can) and I even held a season ticket in the years where it was possible.

Do I begrudge Red Book Holders getting tickets...No. They deserve it. Good Luck to them. My faith was rewarded when I applied for tickets through the UEFA ballot. Smug no. Relieved and very happy. Yes.

Posted by: Mike  | May 3, 2006 4:40 PM

Amanda wrote...

I'm really sick of hearing those fans going on about how far they have travelled this season to watch the Boro as they played in the UEFA cup.

How many of those fans that are moaning about maybe not getting a cup final ticket were there watching them play when they were in they were relegated?

Good luck to all those with S and T patron numbers who get cup final tickets, there money has been there at the beginning of every season, even when the Boro weren't playing well. How many of these UEFA Cup fans where there then?

Posted by: Amanda  | May 3, 2006 4:46 PM

Ray Porter wrote...

How about giving priority to Red Book holders (if necessary, going first to S + T prefixes, then going down the list, as now intended) WHO HAVE TICKED THE BOX ASKING AUTOMATICALLY FOR TICKETS TO EVERY HOME GAME IN ALL THE CUP COMPETITIONS THE CLUB PLAYS?

These people will have bought tickets for every game, even the "less attractive ones" earlier in the season when crowds were relatively low, not just seeking tickets now we are in a FINAL.

Posted by: Ray Porter  | May 3, 2006 6:23 PM

Stuart Burnett wrote...

Maybe there is no fair way of selecting who deserves a ticket most, but the least the club can do is e:mail, telephone or by any other means of cummunication which are a plenty in this .com era as early as humanly possible, not by wait for postie to drop a letter in on Saturday morning. Then we can then plan and prepare our mass exodus to the Netherlands and start to enjoy our most historical week.

Posted by: Stuart Burnett  | May 3, 2006 6:29 PM

tom mcginn wrote...

i work offshore but i am a red book holder s patron number go to every match when at home .home and away i would like to know why is it s and t why is it not s first then t and i have been to 85 percent of euro games

Posted by: tom mcginn  | May 4, 2006 12:46 PM

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