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All Bets Off In Boro Boss Guessing Game

Posted by on May 30, 2006 2:48 PM | 

GAMBLE: financial speculation, a calculated risk on a game on chance, a wager on one of several possible outcomes.

Now, I like a daft quid on the correct score or the Grand National as much as the next man (unless the next man happens to be Paul Merson) but I don't take it too seriously. I wouldn't for instance let the way the bookies frame their odds influence my own judgement on any major issues of the day.

But it seems plenty of Boro fans are getting overly excited by the fluctuations in the betting market and are starting to confuse the troughs and peaks in a would-be manager's price at the bookies with a real prospect of them becoming the new boss. Some may even think that at a tasty 12-1 there is a realistic prospect of Bernie Slaven taking the job.

The internet has transformed the gambling business, not just the volume but the nature of betting. With on-line accounts people can slap a tenner on in a flash from their office so prices can swing wildly at the first hint of any development whatsoever and a Sky Sports newsflash can cause chaos at the cyber turf accountants.

So Alan Curbishly is spotted getting a taxi to Heathrow by an eagle-eyed Boro fan at 10am and then as he e-mails and texts all his mates hoping they can make a killing at 8-1 the odds tumble dramatically to 15/8. Then alert punters see the price moving quickly and all pile in too assuming there must be something in it. Then Curbs plane leaves for Tenerife at 11am and he slowly drifts back out to 18-1.

News travels quickly now and gamblers - and the bookies - react immediately. Tony Mowbray started as a strong candidate at about 8-1 but after his talks with Ipswich he drifted to 18-1. When he withdrew from the job his price was slashed immediately as low as 3-1 or 4-1 on the assumption that he must be making himself available for Boro but after news that first Teesside Tel then Martin O'Neill have been offered it he has gone back out to 10-1.

Kevin Keegan went from 100-1 to 33-1 and there seemed to be a bandwagon building last week on the basis that he had been spotted driving along the A19. Yes, he could be going to Hurworth, the Riverside or Bulkhaul HQ on Riverside Park - but it's much more likely he is visiting his Wynyard property.

Back in March gullible punters were sucked in by a strong internet rumour that George Graham was 'nailed on' for Newcastle and sites offering to good to be true odds of 66-1 and 80-1 were inundated with eager new customers wagering tens, twenty and even hundreds of pounds on the Scot. The rumour gathered strength and spread through internet fan sites and the odds were slashed as low as 4-1 the next day before surprised Newcastle had to issue a denial. The bubble burst leaving mug punters feeling sheepish and bookies feeling flush.

Assumptions are made too whenever betting is suspended. Naturally many will believe that particular bookies are no longer taking bets on their favourite because "it is a done deal" and go searching for other slower,firms still offering odds and put money there instead. In fact betting is routinely suspended as part of the site housekeeping, when a new name is added to the list or while the bookies try to assess how a large ammount of money coming in should be reflected in their odds.

A lot of money has been wasted as punters have chased a big pay-off on the basis of transparent rumours that fly in the face of logic. Southgate has been as low as 13-2 despite not having his coaches badges. You could get 16-1 on Ravanelli as well last week making the Italian Whine look a more likely successor to Mac than David O'Leary, Steve Bruce, Chris Coleman and Alex McLeish.

Given the speed of communications, the sports websites pedalling gossip and guesswork as news and the vibrant network of fans internet message boards that pass on every scrap of information quickly it is no surprise that so much out their in cyber-space is contradictory. No surprise either that given an eager audience and no editorial control that it is open to manipulation either by mischief making rumour mongers or by those seeking to ramp prices in order to make a quick buck by laying bets elsewhere.

Punters should be wary of using the fluctuations of odds as any kind of guide to anything other than the likelihood of the bookie making money. But if you see Big Phil Scolari having a quick pint in the Laurel or Chris Coleman parking up at the Riverside let me know. I know where I can still get 33-1 for them.

Comments (4)

Barnet Nigel wrote...

Now if I was a betting man I'd say the new manager isn't going to be Martin O'Neil.......

My guess is Big Jack as 'Creative Director' and
Graeme Souness as the 'top draw' manager......!!!

Posted by: Barnet Nigel  | May 30, 2006 6:17 PM

Ian Gill wrote...

Anthony

I hope you kept your money in your piggy bank rather than putting it on O'Neill.

Barnet Nigel's management team is top drawer, sadly flat pack and not House of Fraser. As the chairman of MFI said 'as one door shuts another drops off'

*AV writes: I've got a tenner on Mogga. I'm a sentimental old fool

Posted by: Ian Gill  | May 31, 2006 11:19 AM

John wrote...

Vic

Serious point. Germany, Italy, most of the former Yugoslavia, the Czech Republic.....the list goes on and shows what happens when the innocent punt on a new manager, your own team's result as a fan, the first scorer etc gets a hold on the game rather than being a flutter on it.

Yes, the likes of Terry, Gudjohnsen, Owen, Rooney etc betting bigtime money on the horses probably isn't proportionately different to what ordinary mortals lay out but some ordinary mortals go too far and so will some players.

Others involved in games - like officials - don't live in financial la-la land but see it up close and have clearly been tempted in near neighbouring countries and who may be involved in matches we play in.

Then, the sport can reach a tipping point (if you'll pardon the pun). I loath horse racing so I'm biased, but it does seem to me that that is a 'sport' so in thrall to betting and the legal and illegal industry round it that I believe it wouldn't exist as a sport without gambling.

The purpose of the sport, except for a few diehards in the further reaches of National Hunt, is the gambling not the winning or losing, let alone the taking part.

I know more than a few racehorse owners who gleefully talk about deliberately losing races to fix the weight and the odds for another race further down the line. How can that be right?

The Jockey Club has a few goes at nabbing some suspects for window dressing but must have its own vested interest - which seems to be about keeping the industrial scale fiddling just this side of scandal, not getting rid of it.

Early days yet but it's difficult to see or hear any broadcast football nowadays without an earnest discussion of the odds - again, as though this were the purpose of the game. How is that driven by the nature of gambling industry sponsored programming?

How are Boro driven by gambling industry shirt sponsorship - probably not a significant element of our income yet but what if we have the Middlehaven casino?

Start of a slippery slope? I wonder.

Posted by: John  | May 31, 2006 11:24 AM

ROBERT LAW wrote...

To be hones I got a tip about the Boro job on the 25th May. The tip was Southgate and the work colleague who informed me sait it would be 20-1. When I got home I seen the odds of 80-1 anf therefore stuck a tenner on it. A bit dissapointed it was only a tenner now. The tip was however, incorrect. Venables and O'Neill were apparently both offered the job before Gareth got it. Im not complaining cos I won 800 quid. It was inside info I recieved.

Posted by: ROBERT LAW  | June 7, 2006 4:11 PM

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