Boro's Biblical Battering At Blackpool
WE SHOULD have known we were in for some cataclysmic event when a sinister sky turned Biblical black.
The game started ominously under a bruising, brooding shroud and suddenly, frighteningly, the heavens opened with swirling, stinging rain lashing down from all directions in a howling wind. If you believed in omens and portents, they were all there.
What followed was a massive, unstoppable deluge that swept a powerless Boro aside pathetically - and we are not talking about the weather.
Boro were battered into submission by the sheer elemental force of Ian Holloway's Blackpool blitzkrieg. The pace, penetration and prolific goal threat of the relentless orange swarm overwhelmed a ponderous side that simply couldn't cope.
High-octane Blackpool press high up, close in aggressively in organised packs and ruthlessly pick off anyone who dawdles over the ball with the speed and vicious edge of a steaming street-gang.
Boro's chugging engine room were wide-eyed innocents strolling through unforgiving alien urban turf swiftly relieved of their Iphones and left stunned and sheepish.
Having mugged the midfield, Blackpool were quickly knocking it down the diagonals for their sprinting strike-force to tear forward unchallenged and scythe through a static and exposed defence and then square it for the untracked run of two or sometimes three tangerine shirts into the box.
Boro's players were taking too much time on the ball, taking a touch and looking up for a pass, which is normally a good habit for a side looking to build patient, passing moves but in this game proved fatal. That considered fraction of a second of the midfield artisan was all it took for two or three orange shirts to zip in.
Blackpool were awesome. They ripped into Boro, cutting down the channels exploiting the gap between the full-back and the statuesque stoppers and then, almost every time, produced a real threat.
Holloway was gushing after the game about the slick display of perpetual movement and bubbling threat presented by in-demand Thomas Ince, the Championship's top striker with six so far, describing him as being "on fast forward."
But it wasn't just him. The entire team was zipping and buzzing around in a blur. And it felt like there was about 15 of them in and around the Boro box at any one time.
And the shots were flying in from all angles. It was frightening. Boro fans were wincing at the systematic one sided beating. It was painful. And they were powerless to defend themselves against it.
At the high tide peak of the orange waves crashing over the Boro box they were unleashing a shot on target every three minutes.
Blackpool scored four, had a couple of other efforts well saved or pushed onto the woodwork by Jason Steele, had two ruled out for offside and believed they had a strong shout for a first half penalty as Bikey skittled over Delfouneso with a robust tackle.
Seriously, it could have been six, seven or eight. It was embarrassing. You won't see a more one-sided game at any level this season.
Yet somehow Boro were still in it at the break. They had wobbled, and stumbled and looked battered and bruised but regrouped to launch a fight-back just before the interval and, as Blackpool took a breather, claw a goal back.
They had carved a few chances against the run of play, Ishmael Miller lashing the best into the side netting after a well weighted pass from Josh McEachran but rarely looked to have much to offer up front in a toothless display.
The goal came in scrappy fashion, Bikey first thumping a header against Friend and onto the bar from a chaotic corner, then when McEachran chipped it back in he forced a second piledriver header through the crowd and home.
And Boro could have levelled soon after the restart in a respectable but short-lived revival as a crisp passing move took Muzzy Carayol into the box and when he cut the ball back McEachran sent a low shot fizzing just wide of the far post. But that was it.
Almost immediately Blackpool regained control and the deluge continued.
Tony Mowbray probably got it wrong tactically. He set out to sit deep and draw Blackpool forward hoping to exploit the space behind their full-backs as they pushed on.
The plan was to knock quick balls into those areas for Miller to hold up and for Marvin Emnes and Carayol to streak forward in support. That was the plan.
In fact, isolated Miller was completely ineffective. He still looks ring-rusty after a long lay-off and is misfiring in the box while Marvin Emnes - back again after a spell out on compassionate leave - was anonymous throughout. Boro were toothless.
But Blackpool were rampant. Boro were battered. There is no two ways about it.
In the past few years Bloomfield Road has become a bogey ground for Boro. It is always a miserable, freezing night - the police are not happy about the prospect of a stag weekend themed Saturday invasion - it is always a no-show by Boro, and we always get tonked. They are starting to shape up as the new Aston Villa, always good for an annual hammering, although usually at our place. In the last three trips over there, Blackpool have scored two, three and four. Next term is not looking good.
In the wider context it was another poor away day defeat for a side that were happy travellers last season. Boro had an opening day no-show at Barnsley and played well in flashes but missed sitters at Millwall.
In three defeats on the road Boro have not a single point to show, have conceded eight goals and scored just one from open play - and that came after a corner was scrambled away and thrown back.
A year ago this week Boro won at Crystal Palace to clock up a new all time club record of six successive away wins and eight in all competitions having found an effective system that suited life on the road.
Having shored up the awful home form, with a reshaped squad Tony Mowbray, must o quickly find an equally productive plan for his travels if this season is to ignite.
For all the Biblical portents at Bloomfield Road this is not the end of the world. But it is certainly a stark warning.
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On the radio, the game at Blackpool sounded like a bit of a car crash. More than just the oft heard "bad day at the office".
It's a bad day at the office if the operation on that bad leg doesn't go as well as hoped. But if they cut off the wrong leg, leaving the bad leg as sore and useless as it was before... Or if you go to court to mitigate on a speeding summons and end up in the cells convicted of burglary...
There's bad and there's BAD. No excuses will do. It has to be put right for Friday. Good job it's an easy game at Blackburn, then..
It might feel a bit better after a night's sleep.
Well I guess that was a measure of where we are - a reality check of the brutal kind. The answer is that we are well down the Championship pecking order, much nearer the bottom than the top sad to say.
A new team yes, need time to 'gel' maybe...but still a long, long way down and in truth, if that's the best we can do against a team who, if promoted, would reside at the bottom of the PL until relegated again, then there is little hope - especially as Cardiff managed to comfortably best Millwall - embarrassing really.
I shouldn't expect an upsurge in crowds at the Riverside anytime soon - Boro won't be anywhere near promotion this season, nor should they harbour false aspirations to be so. Mid-table would be a result with this team and its management. For a pretty good defender in his time, Mowbray seems to be at a total loss to coach his defence in the basics.
Embarrassment is the best description I can muster...
Battered.
Still, it is early doors isn't it ? We mustn't panic, there are still 32 games to get things right. Tick..Tick...Tick...Tick.
We mustn't be bed wetters or doom and gloom merchants so early..Tick...Tick...Tick...
Blackburn on Friday, onwards and downwards .
Anyone got Strachan's phone number?
It's gonna be a long, cold winter from now on.
We were nowhere near them last night. They were quicker and better organised (maybe they have a more consistent line up). Having two useless forwards on didn't help either.
Tom Ince, Josh Mceachran, Luke William, Adam Reach.
All young tyros, two played and two were not even on the bench. It was no surprise that Luke and Adam didnt feature. Mogga may well quote wanting to blood them gently. Mogga's call.
What did surprise me that Mogga commented that several players were leggy at the end of Saturdays match. Miller came off with a knock, Thommo had barely trained and looked to have taken a knock before he came off. McEachran had barely trained.
Yet they all played. Miller got another chance but as a Forest fan said he is amazing because he can trap it farther than he can shoot.
We were exposed in the channel that Ipswich exploited but were not good enough to punish us. We miss bailey in the snarly, enjoy the trenches role. Thommo is the passer, Grant is the runner. Smallwood is the rotweiler - with no little skill. At least he made the bench.
We are missing Rhys and Bates but they would need protection as well.
But none of this is a huge surprise, it will take time to bed the players in. With the injuries and searching for the right blend it was never going to happen overnight.
There are 40 games left and plenty of points to play for.
Final naughty comment. Only one academy player made the pitch last night. Apart from the mischief, Mogga must think who he brought in are better than the academy lads. And that includes those with some experience such as Smallwood and Hines.
There again Ince and McEachran are much older arent they?
After my beautiful, sun-drenched cross-Pennine drive through Ripon, Pateley Bridge, Grassington, Skipton and the Lancashire dales, black clouds and December weather greeted us as kick-off drew near, and another largely ineffectual performance from our lads.
We lacked a Nicky Bailey (whom we could not have, as he's not ready) but also, I think, a Seb Hines (whom we could have had). His speed across the ground might have helped cope with the fluid, excellent play of a spirited Blackpool attack.
We might be moaning today that poor Mogga has been able to field the same first team only once (by my reckoning) this season, but Blackpool were playing the football Mogga probably wants to see, and they could argue they are still bedding in elements of their squad, one of whom could have scored four - and did score twice.
Reach and Williams might have continued to cause problems in attacking the opposition, had they been selected, although neither would have caused the problems Incy's lad caused us. We relied on long balls up to Miller and then on long balls up to Juke. The kindest way to express what I felt last night was to intone Mogga's mantra, "Work in Progress... It's a Work in Progress..." (Even if this performance bore all the hallmarks of last year's drubbing at Bloomfield Road!)
One remarkable feature of last night needs to be mentioned: Justin Hoyte hardly put a foot wrong all night, despite the Seasiders tearing big holes everywhere else in the defence. Steele didn't do much wrong either.
**AV writes: Hoytey has been fantastic all season - and (controversially) - was probably among the best in the back half of last season too.
Silly me. This was not the same team that we had against Ipswich. I forgot about Marvin Emnes being there last night! Silly me!
Halifaxp -
And Williams and Reach.
I am really pleased for Justin Hoyte and it would be churlish to say his pace and atleticism would stand out in our back four. It was noticeable that the right side of the defence were more solid than the left on Saturday, was that still the case last night?
That could be down to the attackers either favouring that side naturally - whenever I have seen Ince he seems to play through that channel.
As I posted earlier you need someone in front of the back four to break things up.
The risk of starting slowly, sitting back and having a wait and see game plan is if the opposition get through early you are stuffed.
Thrashed !
Tony`s selections leave a lot to be desired .
A big reality check last night. Demoralising for the fans who travelled to watch last nights performance, i'm sure.
I really thought we would have stepped up a gear last night and have taken all three points but alas there seems to be a pattern emerging with an inability to collect points away. A reality that must be dealt with and with great urgency on Friday which I'm sure will be today's battle-cry.
Consistency seems to be eluding itself yet again. It may be early days but i'm sure the stats are already stacking against us and mid table mediocrity may be where our ambitions should lie this year.
I certainly hope i'm wrong and our players gel sooner rather than later.
Conversation in my house around 7pm last night:
Wife: You're biting your nails nervously, by any chance are Boro playing tonight?
Me: Yeah, away at Blackpool
Wife: Blackpool? They should win that then surely?
Me: Nah, we ALWAYS get tonked away at Blackpool. They'll score at least 3.
Wife: Oh how the Boro have fallen...
Sadly I underestimated the woefulness of our performance, although at least we scored. Not looking forward to a further tonking away at Blackburn on Friday. It will be akin to walking on water if we get a point there.
Most of us probably predicted a 2 or 3 nil defeat before the match started. I am of the opinion that team selection (more non-selection) and tactics were completely out of touch...something we will be with the top 6 if this form continues.
An awful result, I don’t necessarily have any problem with Mogga making loads of changes but they have to have some logic to them. I really can’t fathom why Williams and Reach weren’t at least on the bench. Surely they are the type of players you want in your team if you are trying to play a counter-attacking game?
Having said that, we can probably consider ourselves a bit unlucky to run into Blackpool on their current run of form, they surely can’t keep this up for 46 games. Nine points from six isn’t an awful start, it’s probably going to get worse before it gets better, I can’t see many of us predicting much on Friday.
But – if we keep winning at home, then surely the away performances will start to pick up. The only problem with that is we are going to put more and more pressure on ourselves to win the home games, and something will have to give eventually.
Is it a coincidence that all the attacks seem to be coming from our left hand side?
Burnley were getting a lot of joy from that side with Trippier overlapping then leading to goals. Ipswich were having attack after attack there on Saturday and now young Tom Ince has had a field day down the same wing.
George Friend, maybe he is getting found out by the opposition as being a week link in our defence, he certainly doesn’t have the look or build of a full-back, he seems to have decent pace but turns slow and doesn’t position himself too well. I think the lads a good footballer but not a left-back, he’s built to be a centre-back.
This is starting to remind me of the time when Strachan was in charge when he wouldn’t play young Bennett or Taylor at left-back and insisted on playing Pogga at left-back and he was getting tortured game after game but still no change.
Remember one evening we were at home to Preston and Ross Wallace normally playing on the left-wing switched to the right to go one on one with poor Pogga and he absolutely tortured him all game but some how we managed to win 2-1 I think, and it was a lot more lucky than Ipswich at the weekend.
If this is a pattern it will have to be addressed, with Ben Gibson staying with Tranmere until January (they kept another clean sheet last night) and no kids coming through in that position, maybe the only way is to bring Parnaby in if he can stay fit and switch Hoyte to left-back, not ideal I know but it will have to be addressed if it continues.
Don’t like singling out players but even the Doncaster fans said Friend is an excellent CB but only an emergency left-back.
Sounded like most of the team struggled last night anyway and Mowbray is going to have to come up with some game plan to get a win or even a draw against Blackburn. Maybe young Luke Williams has another something special, this time for our away support to give them a happy trip home.
Didnt think we were going to get anything there but lived in hope.
This whole idea of taking them on the break only works when there is support.
Miller was on his own Emness was far too deep so he was holding the ball up for who. We might as well have had two or three up front and lost 5-1 but at least have given a better account of ourselves.
I would go for it on Friday total underdogs nothing to lose. At least thats the pace setters away about done may be we will get it together before we get them at home.
Long way to go though.
That was painful but not entirely unexpected.
It seems that every time we lose we're all trashing the team selection, but while any selection would probably have lost - Blackpool are simply better than us - once again I can't get my head around what TM was thinking.
It's prefectly understandable to want a team that can counter, but if you want to do that you have to win the ball back and get it forward quickly.
Surely we needed a tackler in midfield. Surely we needed pace in wide areas. Surely we needed someone to hold it up. Where were Smallwood? Carayol offers pace in abundance but where were L Williams and Reach? Where was Juke?
Baffling stuff, but as I say, any selection may not have been enough.
I hope we can look at our team in years to come and think that they remind us of Blackpool. I suppose that tells it's own story.
Lessons learned and point from Ewood please.
The rational side of my football brain tells me this is to be expected with a new team, a win, lose, win, lose pattern and may remain so for another 10 matches.The team needs to bed in, players need to adjust to the demands of the league, tactics that are unfamiliar become understood.
All of which is plausible and happening as we write.However this clashes with the emotional impulse as a supporter that is driven to annoyance at the feebleness of the performance, the inability to defend combined with the ineptitude in attack.
Worse we then engage in head scratching over Mogga's team selection. I understand playing talented youngsters is not the only panacea for success but Luke Williams could have stayed in the team and Emnes on the bench. The lad has not played enough matches to be psychologically scarred as Mowbray fears- in fact the very opposite he is bursting at the seams to play.
The same applies to Reach. We struggle against teams that have pace, can play and keep the ball as Blackpool do and teams that are direct and physically imposing where we wilt. The short term worry I haveis we are too easy to beat and too weak in attack.
Over to you Tony, its your team- sort it out- pragmatically in the short term shore up the defence- developmentally by playing Wiliams and Reach more frequently.
Blooming Heck AV, I thought Stephen King was writing that at first! It is glaringly obvious, we are only mediocre at best. Play the kids for a few seasons and get rid of all the dead wood. That includes all of the recent firewood we have taken in.
AV said: "In the last three trips over there, Blackpool have scored two, three and four. Next term is not looking good."
Actually, AV, we will be in different divisions, one in the Premiership and one in the championship. guess who goes where!
We have superstar kids we are told. So why dont we play them? How old was Proc when he played every game? How old was Spike? Craig Johnston? Cummins? Mowbray? Pallister, Ripley? Pollock?
Thomson is a waste of space. Leadbitter? They are just blocking the development of our youngsters. Remember Arca at Barnsley? Stop messing around with the kids Mogga.
As I've mentioned recently,this has been getting worse since last January,
We are in relegation mode (YES).
I also mentioned Mowbray has put together a team of players who will be great for one game then very poor for three. His signings have been, lets just say, not up to it. Which players have kind of stood out so far? Williams, Reach, Steele.... did he sign any of them?
And theres another concern now: Mowbray is sounding like Southgate, more spin.
I DO hope im wrong. I was going to wait for the 10 - 12 games in but I keep looking back to the last 30 or so.
I have had some miserable days at British seaside resorts over the years, but this one just about took the biscuit, edging out of the top spot a day of uninterrupted hail, rain, thunder and lightning at Littlehampton in 1949.
Excellent report, AV. As usual you manage to convey the mood and atmosphere of the game as well as its details. I would not disagree with any of your judgments, though I am less sure than you that Mogga got it wrong tactically. On the night I think we would have been well beaten however the team had been set up.
Before the game, one's pessimism provided the chief source of hope. Last season we went into games at Sunderland, Cardiff and West Ham fearing the worst (as we did at Cardiff the previous season), but produced superb displays on the day.
Perhaps this time by sitting deep, being organised in defence, staying in the game for as long as possible and hitting on the break, we might get some kind of result. The fear was that we might go behind early, chase the game and ship five or six goals, so vulnerable have we been to counter-attacks in our away games this season.
Well we did ship the early goal. Not only that but Steele produced four superb saves. I looked at my watch. 12 minutes had gone. Blackpool were producing one of the best first half performances I have seen in this division. I doubt if any team in the league could have lived with them.
We have both on paper and in fact a pretty solid back four. But by coming away from the central defenders, the Blackpool strikers found acres of space in front of our back four and gaps between them which they fully exploited. This is prime Nicky Bailey territory, and he was sorely missed.
I am in a minority in seeing many excellent qualities in Thompson, but I think Mogga may be mistaken in believing that he can fulfil this role. He gets caught on the wrong side of his man too often, but above all he does not sniff out the danger before it has time to develop in the way that Nicky does. Nor is he as effective in rallying the troops and keeping everyone else on their toes. But who is?
After 35 minutes we were still in the game thanks only to another string of fine saves from Steele, including a worldy from a Taylor-Fletcher header, and the profligacy of the Blackpool forwards. Miller produced a fine lay-off for Leadbitter to shoot strongly and force a save, and we once managed to get the striker facing the right way and running at the defence. Going for strength rather than placement, Miller hit the side netting.
Perhaps uniquely I am a bit of a Miller fan. I can understand what Mogga sees in him. And I saw him pretty well destroy us, and Seb Hines in particular, at the City Ground last season. Here, however, he was still lacking in match sharpness and received minimal support. Emnes was still on the plane.
McEachran was anonymous, though he improved as the game progressed. Carayol, out on the left, saw less of the ball than Miller. Leadbitter played most of the game under the handicap of a quite unnecessary early booking for kicking the ball away.
Just when it looked as though we might hang on without further catastrophe until half-time, George Friend showed that we couldn't, by fiddling instead of clearing his lines and allowing Ince to present Delfouneso with a second goal. Poor George, head in hands. had not a friend in the world at that moment, particularly amongst his team mates. Consolatory gestures were conspicuously absent.
Game over. Or so we thought. Then Carayol, despairing of seeing the ball ever again on the left, moved inside, beat half a dozen defenders,and forced a corner. Blackpool chose to defend it by using their smallest defender to mark Woodgate, who nodded the ball back from the far post to Bikey who hit the bar. From the resulting scramble McEachran re-centred the ball. This time Bikey nodded in with authority.
Half-time and it was as difficult to comprehend that we were still in it as it was to disagree with Blackpool fans who felt that without Steele's saves and a hatful of missed chances their team could have come in 6-1 up.
Tactics for the second half? Don't chase the game, I would have thought, hang on to the one goal deficit, don't leave yourself open to the counter-attack, and apply the real pressure in the last twenty minutes. Not a bit of it. We came out, took the game to Blackpool and started to look like a team.
Caroyal at last began to get some real service and was a constant threat. We gave them problems at set pieces. And corners, thanks to the combined presence of Miller, Woodgate and Bikey. (When was the last time we could say that?).
Then another sloppy error. Miller gave the ball away, catching us out of position at the back. Ince, for the umpteenth time beat Friend for skill and pace, rounded Steele, and slid home a fine goal. What a player this lad is! That Liverpool could pay £20m for Downing, but let this lad go defies understanding. Mark my words,young Thomas will be playing for a big London club within the next two years. At 70 minutes he was subbed to a standing ovation, in which it would have been churlish not to have joined.
Game really over this time, a fact confirmed by Carayol's removal, and the appearance of Ledesma and Zemmama. Ledesma's only moment of note came with his haranguing of the officials for spotting his obvious foul. His one man mission to stir up the opposition's crowd warrants a firm word from Mogga.
All that remained was the final penalty, a soaking for all of the Boro fans, and a police warning for me as I struggled to get into a dry pair of pants back in the car. It rounded off a day I won't quickly forget.
I have never returned to Littlehampton in over 63 years. Given the form of the two teams I do not envisage an early return to Blackpool.
Well guys, I wouldn't be too despondent.
But I would like to point out a couple of things. Comments like "pick your best 11 and stick to it" and "Blackpool have a settled side" are way off the mark. Six changes at the weekend, another six last night. Holloway has a massive squad and the starting 11 could be any combination of around 20 players, all who know the system, the tactics and thier roles. It's been an evolution at Bloomfield Road. Holloway brings in players who will fit in the system, and not the other way around.
Please don't kid yourselves that you were caught on a bad day. Ask Leeds and Ipswich this season already. I fancy you'll do better at Ewood on Friday - they have been far less convincing by all accounts.
I think Mowbray has had enough time to impose his strategy and shape his team, but has not performed consistently since last Christmas when teams began to easily stop us playing.
I can't stand it when he drops players after they have done well, usually the young ones. If I were one of those players I would be pretty frustrated, what do they have to do to get a run of games?
Another pet hate of mine is that Mowbray disrespectfully keeps calling the players "boys", even if they are in their 30's! I would have found it irritating in my 20's never mind 30's.
I was initially wary when he was first appointed but have tried to remain positive as he was a great player and leader for us back in the 80's. When Strachan left I felt someone like Billy Davies could have been good for us........oh well another season of mid table mediocrity to follow :-(
Having been soaked through to the skin en route to the ground things did not get any better once inside.
It was one of the most embarrassing one sided games I have seen since the away game at Southampton last season.
We were never in it, never competed, never had the same quickness, urgency and desire that Blackpool had. Same tactics that were applied in our previous two visits there that didn't work and an even worse beating won't apply next season AV because we won't be in the same division.
Blackpool is one of the smaller pitches, couldn't see the point of hitting the long ball that nine times out of ten found their keeper and just started another assault on our goal.
Have to agree that Hoyte was one of our better performers as he has been all season. I wasn't his greatest fan last season as I wasn't of Steele but very happy with them this term.
Emnes was anonymous. No wonder Halifaxp forgot he was playing. I don't see Tony's logic in giving the likes of Reach, Williams etc selected games to play in. Look at young Ince, full of confidence now playing week in week out and more or less the same age.
Tony and co have to get it right for Blackburn before the away form becomes a losing habit that we can't break. The regular away following have been used to a lot better the past season and a half and I'll be there again Friday full of hope but unfortunately as with last night expecting to be disappointed again!
Atrocious. Abysmal. Abject.
This pathetic performance was reminiscent of so many of our spineless games in Southgate's relegation season.
I have so many questions. I'll stick to 3.
1) Miller????? We got more out of Juke in 10 minutes than Miller has offered in 4 games. Completely bloody useless.
2) Why oh why does Mogga not use Smallwood, who has proved many times that he can play the holding role almost as well as Bailey? He was on the bench last night, unused as usual, despite the tangerine onslaught. What has this lad done to upset the manager?
3) If Mogga got it wrong tactically first half, as he clearly did, why did he not sort it out in the second? Why didn't he devise some sort of plan to stop the Blackpool runners, or perhaps he did and the players weren't up to it? Was he deluded by the goal we scored just before half-time, and felt that would turn the tide? Big mistake.
I won't be going to Blackpool next season. They'll be in the Premiership. We won't.
Let's face it. That result was coming.
Despite being seventh, before last night all five of our games were against bottom half teams, and all of out three wins were unconvincing. Outplayed first half v Burnley, outplayed second half v Palace, and outplayed both halves v Ipswich. So no surprises.
After the optimism of the last 12 games of 10/11, when we topped the form table, and the first 12 games of 11/12, when we were still looking the part, we now look to be going backward.
Team selection looking questionable too. Why no Smallwood, Reach, Williams, Hines?
Worried.
Now there was me thinking,after last season’s exploits and the tide of change in personnel in the summer, that the Messiah had returned but, to quote Monty Python, “He’s not the Messiah, he’s a very naughty boy, now go away”. There is another version but the final part of the sentence is unprintable, well, on here it is any way.
I realise that there has been constraints to TM’s purchases/signings/loans due to the fiscal state of the club but if, as stated that we are in such a perilous state, why on earth has TM not pillaged the academy for what I read are more than able candidates?
Why Bikey when we have young Ben Gibson more than holding his own at Tranmere? Why Miller, who apparently couldn’t kick his shoes off, instead of Jukebox, Reach and Williams. I mean, does Parnaby actually get paid to run around the park all week and then get match days off? With Thomson’s track record, I’d have him on appearance payments only and I’d definitely cancel the BUPA scheme he’s been making the most of while he’s been with the club.
If I was Smallwood and turning in the performances he has been, I’d be asking serious questions as to why I’m more often putting in eighteen holes with Parnaby on game days instead of filling a big one in front of the back line.
The humiliation at Blackpool has, I’m certain, not just got me thinking about the credentials of TM and his ability to lead us back to the Promised Land. Credit where credit’s due, he’s moved us to be a better structured club both financially and being “one of our own”, actually put a few more bums on seats than would probably not have fronted up if the former incumbents were still in charge.
Thing is, what’s been achieved behind the scenes has to be translated in to the same on the pitch, but we’re only seeing it, or in my case reading about it, in fits and starts. Where’s the consistency required to gain traction in this and any other league? I’m not looking for him to turn water in to wine, but a nice cheeky little number every now and again would be really appreciated
Sorry I’ve not been posting lately AV, I’d like to blame work or my current location, but I’ve just been a slacker to be honest. Always a cracking read, though, and virtually always on the mark.
After making the trip to the seaside all I can say is ouch. People go on about the boy Ince but the whole Blackpool team attacked us Tuesday night and many teams this season are going to be on the end of a thumping if that is how they play at home.
Its okay saying they might get promoted and end up sitting at the bottom of the Premiership but ask yourself this, which would you take another season in the Championship or a season in the Prem?
Reading the local Blackpool press what makes it clear we are in need of major surgery is that Blackpool made six changes to the starting 11 and still whipped our backside.
One big plus was Steele fantastic display without him a score line approaching 8 or 9 would have been on the cards
The blog looks to be as miserable as the weather, even BoroPhil is struggling to find something positive and Jarrko has not provided his usual positive spin.
On Monday I emailed John to say I would settle for two draws and a place in the cup by the time we played Leicester. I am invoking points from unexpected sources for tomorrow nights televised game at Blackburn.
It is that or hide behind the sofa. Tesco have some good offers on beer - other supermarkets may have offers as well.
Some good posts in response to AV's Stuart Hall-esque Blackpool battering blog. BTW, another superb post from Len Masterman - I felt I was actually at the game whilst reading it.
It was also interesting to hear from SeasiderSteve - we often talk about Boro needing to play a settled side but hearing Ian Holloway made six changes from saturday and they still played fluently - were they the first choice rested on Saturday?
Anyway, the main point was that Holloway seems to have a system of playing and players slot into it - whereas Mogga seems to keep changing his system to counter the opposition AND expect the players to adapt on a game by game basis.
This to me is the problem why Boro don't play with consistency. Also, you can rest players if they're playing too often but does the team benefit by bringing in out of form players who are not match fit to replace in-form players?
Mogga's tactic is to keep the opposition guessing - but likewise he's also keeping his players guessing with the shape they are expected to play, which is unlikely to be successful if ALL the players don't execute the game plan properly (which seems to be happening away from home).
Well, it's definitely looking like Boro will do well to make the playoffs. Another season of transition beckons until the academy boys are old enough to be allowed a run in the team and gel together.
I was as disappointed as others but this is football. I have seen the goals on the Boro+ service and there were some terrible mistakes made by Boro. For example the one committed by our Friend which led to a goal by Blackpool.
So totally out-played and lost by a big margin. But this is what we must take to our chin after a summer of change. We cannot expect to be consistent after signing 12 players - it's still early season. The team needs time to gel and we must give Mogga time. We must. He was given the possibility to have his own team and players only this summer (2012). We must remember that - before then he played what he inherited from Strachan.
During last week we were able to read that the stats show Boro are holding the ball nicely and passing the ball like Mogga promised. More than any team in the division. I hope you, AV will look into this trend of new footballing team in a future blog. So the tide is changing for a more entertaining football. But the team is not gelling yet and we must be prepared to see results like on Tuesday. Our team is not ready yet.
Of course we cannot accept the result. Now it is interesting if we "turn up" at Blackburn. Surely we must play better that we did at B'pool. So let's see how the team - and Mogga - react to the defeat.
As ever I am optimistic - we can get a point or three at Blackburn. Let's hope so but a defeat is still not the end of the world. The new players need time to gel. Up the Boro!
Here we go again, doom and gloom, let’s slit our wrists. Every game we’ve won has been lucky (rubbish), every game we’ve lost we’ve been awful. We’ve only beaten useless teams – er, maybe because we are only six games in it’s probable that anyone we have beaten will be in the bottom half.
Honestly, we’ve got 12 new players in the squad, we’ve made an excellent start at home, and we’re in touching distance of the top. I don’t think there is a lot wrong here, and let’s remember I don’t think any of us expects to walk this league, we are probably hoping for a play-off place at best, maybe sneaking into the top 2 if we put ourselves in a good position next year.
If we want a historical precedent for going up with dismal away form, in 91-92 we lost 10 of our 23 away games and got promoted (we lost twice at home), so let’s not panic. We have plenty of time to turn it around and we might as well get the hard ones out of the way now.
It does amuse me how players’ reputations improves while they are out of the team – neither McDonald or Smallwood pulled up any trees last season, now they are both supposed to be the answer?
Keep calm people, everything will look a lot better if we can grab something tomorrow.
**AV writes: In 1991-92 Boro won the first three at home but lost the first two away and in the third away game were losing with five minutes to go at Oxford before Robbie and Bernie scored to salvage the win. Boro got promoted.
In 1987-88 at this point Boro had lost their first two away and only won one from three at home and were 20th and the next away game was to early leaders Aston Villa. They won 1-0, started a steady climb and got promoted.
Seriously, you can't tell anything from the early form or table. At this stage it just people imposing their own predepositions, hopes and fears onto very limited evidence. I've had people seriously telling me the away results mean we are certs for relegation but refusing point blank yo accept that by the same logic the home results mean we are nailed on for 69 points and seventh. They sat that won't happen because at home "that run is bound to change."
Bad science. Right now there is not enough data to call it, with Boro or any team.
Where Blackpool that good and are we really that bad? I suspect the answer is no on both counts.
Our reliance on overcoached tactics stifled any fluidity in our play and Holloways "gung ho, can do" confident beliefs showed in his players performances. There is a lot more to coaching than huddles on the pitch and it showed.
Our lack of experience allied to Blackpool's experienced squad showed, even the youngster Ince is experienced unlike ours who need to be gently blooded apparently. God forbid the likes of Luke or Reach are unleahed. its a bit reminiscent of when Jinky was left sat on the bench by Gareth.
Our technically gifted but Jaffa like Strikers may tick boxes in the Rockcliffe Manual but barn doors come to mind when watching them. If it continues much longer it will raise more analysis on the McDonald debate, while he is a luxury we apparently cannot afford is he a luxury we and Mogga can't do without?
I just want to throw this out there - at what point do we start to worry that things aren't going according to plan?
The reason I ask is - one of the most frustrating things as a fan with football is when you cannot understand the logic of a managers decisions. Even taking into account that we are supposedly just "punters" and the man in charge is the "expert" in terms of the squad, tactics, form, fitness etc. there can be times when utterly baffling decisions happen which leaves you wondering what the game plan is.
Under McClaren this was common, but when we were getting results - it mattered less. Under Southgate as we gradually crept backwards it became a frustrating and increasingly baffling time to be a Boro fan. Strachan? Well, almost his entire time at Boro was one of confusion and conceptual thinking when it came to tactics, formation and substitutions.
And now we move onto Mogga. Last season, we were told, his hands were tied. He had to play the same team because he didn't have anyone else. In spite of this, or I will mischeviously suggest, because of this, we went on a barnstorming run at the start of the season and looked like genuine automatic promotion hopes. Then gradually, as the January window came and new signings came with it, the form ebbed away.
Now we have a fresh slate. Barring a couple of obvious examples (Scott Mc and McManus), Mogga has got his own squad. It might be a cheaper, low budget version of his ideal squad, but he has picked the type of player to go in it. And where are we? Arguably going backwards.
And crucially, the feeling of being completely baffled is returning. Creeping up on us, starting by encroaching on substitutions, then on the substitutes named, and now on the line-up itself. It's probably true that you ask less questions when the team is winning, that the wisdom of the manager, however flawed it may appear, is clearly greater than yours. But when you are losing, and losing very badly, then you can't ignore the questions you have about tactics, personnel and substitutions.
Tinkering with your starting line-up is fine. Lots of managers do it very successfully, you can see that by the comments of the Blackpool fan above. But if you change your starting line-up substantially, plus your tactics, plus your substitutes bench - where is the continuity to go on a good run? When will the understanding develop?
I hope Mogga works it out soon, before the questions that fans have start to get too loud for the management to ignore.
**AV writes: We always ask Mogga what his tactical thinking was and to be fair he always answers in full, dumbing it down of those of without a UEFA B licence. And to be fair, again, you can always see what the logic was, what he set out to do and why he picked particular players. He tells you exactly why. He never ducks it.
At Blackpool we said he had played deep hoping to draw them forward, so they would push their full-backs up leaving space behind for Boro, when they go the ball, to get it forward quickly for Miller to win and hold it up for Carayol to zip forward into the space and take advantage. That was the plan.
When it didn't work Boro started to push higher up the pitch and fight in Blackpool's half and they got some more joy for a spell before Blackpool adapted and started to bypass midfield with longer balls. That's how it panned out.
With Mogga you are always aware of what he is trying to do, even if it is different from match to match to suit the opposition. McClaren wouldn't entertain explaining his thinking, prefering a shroud of semi-mystic jargon and an aloof assumption that tactics were to esoteric for we mortals who needed educating and Strachan sneered at the impertinence of being asked or sarcastically knocked questions away because he didn't accept there was a right for them to be asked. Southgate always tried to explain but it sometimes seemed a bit vague.
I prefer Mogga's approach. If it goes wrong at least you know why and you know that he will agonise over it and try to not repeat the mistake. You may not agree with his approach but you can't say he doesn't explain his reasoning.
The Mirror gave Leadbitter man of match and inferred that others had not shown his battling qualities. I've been impressed with him so far but not taken with other signings.
Woodgate for instance, good reader of game but not quick - and why was he given a three year contract with his injury record (typicall Boro) as for the McDonald farce I would have him in the team before Emnes anyday(more fight,and more goals).
Also Hoyte, no matter what AV or others say I think he is a poor defender with no positional sense (when are we going to get a decent pair of full backs?) McEachren signed on the understanding that when fit he plays, not very diplomatic to our young players who are champing at the bit and hoping to get picked.
All in all I was happy when we got Mogga as manager and he has turned things round but I find i am going off him a bit with his decisions and his teatment of our younger players who should play more regularly.
Mogga really has to decide on his best eleven and start getting results quick,other teams have sussed how we played last year and he needs to stop this sitting back and go for the braver option of playiong further up the pitch,
AV -
I am not going to blame anyone with these comments so keep your hair on.
If you asked me before the season who I would like as the spine of the team it would have included Steele, Rhys, Bails and the Invisible Main.
Steele is doing his part, Rhys and Bails were injured early but as in the film and TV programme we only found the Invisible Main when the bandages were wrapped around his injury. That cant help.
The difference between us and Blackpool may be the fact Holloway has his team drilled and making changes wont unduly affect how the team plays. It is his team and has been for quite a few years.
What we dont know is how he goes about setting his team up. Is he a tinkerman, not just in players but the style of play?
I must admit I havent a clue what line up or formation will appear at Blackpool. Pre season I thought it would take time to get the team to gel, chopping and changing slows the process down, more so with the way you play than the players. I didnt even have to be clever to say it.
I think AV said we were fairly slow at the back so it is difficult to play a pressing game or play with tempo because the back four get isolated. Thommo is a passer and not a shield nor is he quick.
Without Bails it is crying out for Smallwood but we will see what we will see.
Nor are we going to see high tempo movement with Miller or Juke.
It just seems a bit of a mess at the moment but a stroke of luck may come along.
The final irony is that you could say TAFKAB and Miller came in to replace the two Mc's. Whether it is an improvement or not is another debate but it does seem that Bennett's transfer fee looks to be paying for our exiles wages.
Poor Clive lives in the Blackburn area I think. If Blackpool was an AAA performance I wonder what he will get on Friday?
In order to keep track of Ben Gibson's progress, I have been going to Tranmere's games. I even went to see them play away a couple of weeks ago. At Crewe. Crewe!
As a result of the efforts of a couple of Boro lads ( Ben and myself) we are now top of the league. I say "we", since I seem, by accident, to have adopted Rovers as my second team. My shouting out at the top of my voice,"Up the Boro", whenever Ben has been within hearing, has undoubtedly helped the lad to settle,and contributed a great deal to his and the team's success.
Well I can report that Ben is continuing to do just fine. Four successive clean sheets, and only two goals conceded all season so far are stats that speak for themselves. Ben is not only producing faultless displays but is showing a maturity and organising ability well beyond his years.
Significantly Ben was drafted in as a short term replacement for the injured Ian Goodison, who has been one of the outstanding defenders in the division, the Tranmere captain, and a permanent fixture in the team for many years.
As a result of Ben's performances Ronnie Moore has said that Goodison will not be coming straight back into the team even though he is now close to being fit. At Prenton Park that amounts to a seismic event.
If he maintains this form then in January Ben will deserve serious consideration for the Boro bench. Of course he does not yet have the authority of a Woodgate or a Bikey, but given that, with my help, he has been instrumental in taking us to the top of the league, it would be remiss were he not to be given a proper chance to show what he could do at the next level.
Unfortunately I won't be able to make the trip for our game at Crawley on Saturday. I hope he does okay without me.
This is a new team and needs time to bed in, six games in is not a true measure of the capability of any team. Yes we should be seeing glimmers of hope, however let Mogga tinker and play with his squad, give it 10 more games and we should really see what direction we are headed.
If TM is really worried about the pyschological effect on the younger players, ( Reach, Williams, Mains ) and that is his main reason for not picking them, then I think he should seriously be looking to bring in a 30 plus goalkeeper on loan.
Nothing is going to change too much when you read the reports. Poor defence despite Hoyte and Friend being talked up, which means that poor Jason Steele is going to continue picking the ball out of the back of the net for some time yet. What pyschological effect will this have on him??
Just a quick comment, Tony's game plan went wrong again? The manager worries too much about the opposition. The team should play to its strengths, have a way of playing that suits the players and will certainly have to include pace so put in Williams and Reach.
It is a load of nonsense to say the young players need to be nursed. Play them while they are raring to go and rest them when the performance drops off. Certainly Blackpool did not give tuppence for our game plan.
I remember Alan Hansen saying Man United would not win the league playing the 'kids.' Well they did and handsomely
"**AV writes: We always ask Mogga what his tactical thinking was and to be fair he always answers in full, dumbing it down of those of without a UEFA B licence. And to be fair, again, you can always see what the logic was, what he set out to do and why he picked particular players. He tells you exactly why. He never ducks it."
AV - that's admirable, of course - and nothing less than we'd expect of a man like Mogga.
The problem for us mere mortals who don't get to go to pressers and hear the Q&A is that barely a word of it is published - except the occasional answer on here like the one you gave above. That leaves the rest of us just having to guess.
Boro Phil - in order for Richie Smallwood to pull up trees last season, Mogga would have to have played him.
**AV writes: There is almost always extensive quotes from Mogga in Monday's Gazette sport extra about how the game panned out tactically, technically, where it went wrong or right. BBC Tees also have a live post-match interview after every game where Mogga is routinely quizzed on the tactical approach, win or lose. It is not true or fair to suggest such information is restricted to the press.
There could even be an argument that he says too much, offering detractors ammunition and possible areas to challenge him in a way that previous managers have never done. One of the good things about Mogga is that no-one has to guess what he has done or why. You may not agree with it but that is a different issue.
By nursing the kids Mogga is putting their futures ahead of the team's immediate needs. That's one way of looking at it. The other is that Mogga is putting the club's long term future ahead of it's short term one.
As a football manager he is a brave man to do that, but I suppose he will never get a more forgiving boss than Steve Gibson.
As fans we all want the points and performances now, but maybe in a few years time, as a result of Mogga's development strategy, kids like Luke Williams and Adam Reach will be superstars and as a result we'll be the club we want to be.
I suppose you have to be pretty optimistic to accept that view, not something Teessiders are famed for. We shall see.
AV -
Having read your response to John and watching the final instalment of Harry Potter with my daughter a couple questions spring to mind.
Do you take off your Eric invisibility cardie before questions are posed? Secondly do you turn your moving picture of Mogga face down?
**AV writes: I take it that is a gentle jibe but - and this may be a sign of my Potterfree modern mass pop-culture poverty- but I really don't have a clue what that means.
18 appearances from Smallwood last season and he didn't impress me. I thought he finished 10-11 very strongly, but when he did get a chance last season I didn't think he did enough.
He obviously has talent, but to suggest if we put him in the team, we'd have a better chance of winning games, is pushing it on the evidence so far.
I suppose you could argue that if a player is good enough his age doesn't matter. That if he is young he is likely to improve with experience whereas the 27 year old is probably at or near his peak and therefore will not improve much. But, of course, to improve with experience, he would have to play games.
I suppose you could say that younger players brought up through the Academy are likely to be hungry, desperate to get out on the field to impress, so as to make their way in the professional game at as high a level as they can. It's their club like it's ours. And the average Academy player will be getting much lower wages than the average Premier League loanee or player brought in from outside.
It's always a great quote - "You'll win nowt with kids". I suppose if your kids are the quality of the Nevilles, Scholes, Beckham, Giggs.....but even then, if they hadn't been played a lot, no-one would have found out how well they would cope and how good they really were. How many good prospects fail to develop because they were not given their opportunity when the time was right for them?
We KNOW how good Jukebox is, and Miller, McDonald etc. They have already had a large part of their careers (not saying Jukey is old, though) and plenty of games to demonstrate where they are in the football pantheon.
The youngsters haven't played enough for us to say whether X is real top quality and bound for the Premier League with us or a "bigger club", or even a good international future, or whether player Y might make a decent Championship player, or just a lower league player (but still good enough to make a career as a professional). Or whether he might drift out of the fully professional ranks.
I'd like to see more of the youngsters, particularly when they have been doing well. If a young striker has scored a goal in his last match, it seems to me that is the time to make sure you play him again, whilst his confidence is high and he feels he can hit the heights. And unless you play him, you'll never know whether or not he would have hit those heights in that next game. Then if he scores again, he would have even more confidence for the game after that.
It seems to me that, if a player has a shocker, THAT is the time to rest him, to let him recharge his batteries and hopefully regain his form in the reserve team, so he can make a comeback later.
The thing about it is that there can be no proof either way. You can't play the match with my youngsters in the team, and immediately afterwards replay the game with the older stagers in the team, and then compare results. You might say it's not sensible to put the pressure on young shoulders, to expect a boy to do a man's job etc (and all the usual platitudes). But what if you did, and he flourished? Like Beckham, Scholes etc.
Yes, there must be pressure on a young footballer fresh into the team. But not more pressure than there must be on a 19 year old soldier in Afghanistan or a young fireman going into a burning building. A 22 year old teacher facing a hostile class of children in an inner city comprehensive? I don't think anyone suggests that, the 19 year olds having been engaged in a particularly hairy patrol, they should stand down from the next half-dozen patrols while the older lads go out instead.
What if Pele hadn't played in Sweden in 1958? Imagine him overlooked then, and another young lad plays in his place and performs really well...with all the riches at Brazil's call THAT player would have been the World Cup winner with no place for the young tyro. He might never have been the player he turned out to be.
Sometimes I wonder if football is a little bit like the Emperor's new clothes. We have to appreciate the complexities, the subtleties, the formations, the tinkering, the tactics.... On the other hand, football could be a very simple game that people over-analyse.
I will put my 11 good, fast and very committed players out against your 11 less good players and it doesn't matter what your tactics are, 8 times out of 10 my team will win. That may be a harsh way of looking at the Blackpool game (they might have played well, whilst we might have been below par on the night) but I suspect I am right.
How much for Alves? How much did we get for Morrison? And which is the better, more useful, more durable player? St Ledger, Whelan....let's play Pogatetz at full-back...let's get rid of this young left winger to Sunderland as he's not really good enough (Downing). Let's get rid of Bennett for £100K... and 18 months later, after he is miraculously improved so as to get some games, we get millions. Maybe we are all experts and at the same time we all know nothing about football. Just like the professionals.
Assume the brace position and prepare for a tonking on national TV.
AV -
A very gentle jibe as I think you are mellowing towards the club. I think it helps that they are communicating more and that a certain gentleman of the night is no longer with them.
John P has an interesting Banter piece this time round with a 352 formation for tonight.
BoroPhil -
What Smallwood does add is someone who loves the role of holding midfielder. If you have someone who plays that role surely it is better than trying to make do?
It is a bit like when Strachan would play anyone rather than Bennett at left back, he may not have been the finished article but it was better than sundry fish on bikes.
Putting Smallwood there would free up Leadbitter to drive the team forward or Thommo to get forward and pass.
The other point is that his presence on Tuesday coudn't have made us play worse. If the players were leggy against Ipswich playing a couple of days later at high tempo Blackpool was not the ideal scenario. And this isnt hindsight, from Mogga's words I thought he was going to freshen it up in midfield.
The likes of Thommo and McEachran had barely trained before the Ipswich match after recovering from knocks.
But tonight is another game and as always we look forward with optimism. A bit of luck and you are one nil up and have something to build on.
Ian -
Yes. I'm only 10 miles from Blackburn. I've got tickets for all three Lancashire games - BRFC tonight and PNE next week. All are like home games for me instead of the usual 240 mile round trip.
Given current form all three games are a challenge. Blackpool was awful. PNE are apparently playing well and scoring a lot from high balls into the box. Tin hats on Tuesday for our defence.
Tonight I expect a reaction and I'm demanding a better performance. I'll settle for a point. If we can do that, or better, I might look more sanguinely on our progress than I did after Tuesday's debacle.
AV -
On tactics & Mogga's pressers -
Some of us can't get the paper Gazette. But I scour the website. I listen to Radio Tees regularly via the Internet, including post match & I pay for access to Boro World on the MFC website for their interviews etc.
Then you could add all the other research I do for Boro Banter. Believe me, if what you're saying was out there I'd see it. The only place I do see it is on the occasions you do a reply on here - hence my comment.
**AV writes: Most of our Monday stuff doesn't go on-line (obviously we want people to buy the paper and we can't give everything away free, that's just crazy) and I can't say where and how the club use their post-match stuff but doesn't Tees stuff all go out live after the whistle?
Last night they certainly asked: "what did you differently tonight from the game at Blackpool? What went right tonight that went wrong on Tuesday?" and Mogga gave a fairly detailed answer. They almost always ask that kind of question.
I have a feeling that Mowbrays position will be under close scrutiny at the moment and the next couple of games could be a factor whether he remains in the job or not. Both Southgate and Strachan were relieved of their duties in October after failing to impress the Chairman. Watch this space......
Well, that was better! What a contrast with Blackpool. Usually we blow it on TV. Not tonight. For much of the Blackburn game we were magnificent, in all parts of the team. Juke led the line superbly. His header for the second goal was just outstanding. Marvin was back and backed up the Juke with some great runs and ball control. The midfield all played very well together, with Leadbitter and Carayol brilliant. Mustapha terrorised the Rovers defence all night! Jason Steele had another fine game, and best of all was the defence, completely in control till the last 15 mins. Woodgate was my man of the match, but Bikey ran him a close second, and Friend and Hoyte both also had very good games. All 4 put in tremendous blocks all night and especially at the death.
Of course, we had to face the usual storm in the last quarter, and we had some very nervy moments when Rovers scored. As usual Boro defended too deep. But we held on! This was a marvellous team performance.
So now I've changed my mind again! We will get promoted! Blackpool was a blip. Well, no, not quite. Perhaps I was a little hasty in my pessimism after Blackpool, like many others. I admit it, and I'm sorry. There is a long, long way to go. We will lose other games. But if we can play like we did tonight more often we will beat a lot of teams. So, a huge sigh of relief, and cautious grounds for optimism. Well done, Boro!
Ian -
On the Blackpool thread the view was expressed that "Mowbray's position will be under close scrutiny...the next couple of games could be a factor whether he remains in a job or not".
Another poster called the team's performance"Atrocious. Abysmal. Abject... pathetic', and one of the team, "completely bloody useless". With some magnanimity the poster has since apologised.
I just think that we would be wise to
a) be rather more tentative in our public judgments, given the thinness of our evidence base, and not rush to judgment on the basis of reflex responses to the most recent match,
and b) have more trust in Mogga given what we know about the nature of the man , the full nature of the evidence which he has at his disposal, and our understanding of the longer-term direction in which the club is heading.
My own judgment ( which I advance with due caution) is that there is in our case a superb fit between club and manager. I cannot think of anyone else who I would rather see in that position. I also think that this is quite widely recognised, as is the futility of blaming and changing the manager after three or four poor results.
If we are lucky to have Mogga ,then he also has the good fortune to command enormous respect around Teesside. I am as capable as the next man of disagreeing with Mogga over team selection and tactics, but I am not going to compromise the mutual respect that exists between fans and manager, which is currently a source of great strength at the club.