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Deadline Day - LIVE!

By Anthony Vickers on Jan 31, 12 07:26 AM


DEADLINE DAY: multi-media rumour-mongering, Twitter tittle-tattle and viral hysteria plus hours of hypnotic hopeful obsessive gazing at the yellow rolling banner of destiny. A nation yawns.

I'll update throughout the day. I'm here until the Big Ben Bongs. You know the routine. F5. Refresh Vickers' useless blog. Check club website. F5. Refresh FMTTM in case someone there knows someone who knows Mogga's brother's neighbour's Mam. F5. F5. Fidget through office hours then get home and assume the position in thrall to an exciteable android scoopbot Jim White with beer in hand and five windows open on the laptop as the clock ticks down. FOR GOD'S SAKE MOWBRAY SIGN SOMEONE. Sign a Montenegran keeper. Sign a Bulgarian winger. Sign Lee Miller.... he's a goal machine!

****TECHNICAL NOTE*** a bug in the system has meant you can't see the whole of the blog if you click on the "continue reading" button. Try the "comments" button instead then scroll up. That should do it. There's a knack to, like the choke on my old Fiesta.


Today's main aims will be to get a few out to free up space on the wage bill to bring a few in. Inquiries have been made for potential new recruits so Boro know roughly what 'ball park' they are working in but first they need to release the cash.

The main way that will happen is if one of the bigger earners goes through the exit door. Stephen McManus, come on down! Big Mick has had a few nibbles. Ipswich made a vague inquiry last week, sniffed the bait then swum away but are in dire straits and may come back. Bristol City made a firmer inquiry at the weekend and seem very keen but will need some help to make the numbers add up. City's Scots boss Derek McInnes knows Mick from Jockshire and is sure he "can do a job" there.

Mick Mac would need to take a cut in wages, Boro would need to take a hit on the transfer fee, Bristol would need to maybe do something on bonuses to make it work.

McManus will be on big money. Not Premier League Hummer in every colour big money but in the Championship he will certainly be among the top few earners in his position. Probably - *licks finger, holds it up* - between £10-15k a week, depending on playing and with loyalty bonuses and bits on top. That is probably enough in this division two or three players wages. If they come in on frees that is. Or certainly a decent transfer fee and LuaLua's wages. Hey ho.

He's not a bad player and ideally you may want to keep him because he is a big unit and good in the air and gives something different from what we already have but he is not in the first choice pair at the back and we are in no poistion to have £15k a week sat on the bench. It's nothing personal.

McManus 'loves it' here and may not be inclined to move - or take a drop in wages - but he needs to be playing first team football or his career will stall and recent selections here may have sharpened his mind. Even when we have been playing against Land of the Giants strikers - his forte - he hasn't had a sniff of action; even when playing three at the back; even when Rhys is pushed forward into midfield and Seb Hines is played ahead of him he doesn't make the bench. *Sound of penny dropping*.

So that could happen today. If the sums add up. Maybe.

The other main hoped for exit is the lugubrious Baltic cloud of unfulfilled potential Tarmo Kink. He has repeatedly had his first team chance and insisted on shooting from 40 yards with his first touch. He has his talents but he doesn't take direction well and hasn't bought in to the Mowbray ethos that requires tactical adaptability and a willingness to follow instructions closely. Or shoot. Whatever.

Tarmo, the grey ghost of Hurworth, had talks with a couple of Polish clubs last week but nothing concrete has emerged. His wages, not massive here, (*plucks figure*) maybe £4k a week, are top dollar in Poland. His people are trying elsewhere to find a club more compatible with his ambitions: Germany's second string? East Europe? Turkey? Again, squads this season show where he stands in the pecking order.

So, the phone lines are open. What are we bid for these two top international players?

If neither of those happen - of if no-one comes in with a bid for another fringe figure, Halliday say - then it could be a case of waiting for the loan window to open next week and then drafting in short-term stop gaps to get us through to the summer.

Meanwhile Sunderland are poised to add Poggi's mate, the creaky battle-scarred veteran warhorse Kevin Davies - now officially the most ponderous elbow powered Poundshop poacher in Europe - on a free transfer and Wayne Bridge, a player most people only barely remember in action, on loan from Manchester City reserves.

Davies should add a bit of glacial pace and, er, guile to their forward line. Presumably O'Neill couldn't get his preferred lumbering OAP targetman Emile Heskey.

Bridge is reported to be on his way to Sunderland for a medical.

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9 AM UPDATE:

Bloody repeats! Boro's FA Cup clash with Sunderland will be televised by ITV1 again. It has been moved back to Wednesday. In tIcket news, Boro have confirmed that prices for the game will be £20 and £10 for concessions. Season ticket holders have until close of play on Saturday to book their own seats.

Nothing has been said about the South East corner yet but if away fans take up the whole South Stand I can't image the club safety chiefs or the bobbies who erected a metal wall to keep the not derby rivals apart at the SoL would fancy the Red Faction bang up against the Mackem Massive. They will need a sterile area somewhere or we may have to endure once more the sad spectacle of some beer bellied shaven headed middle-aged man in a striped shirt clambering over the segregation netting, floundering pathetically like a beached whale. I think those lads may find their own seats are not available for this particular game. Cue angry phone calls to Gazette.

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9.15 AM UPDATE:

Sky "understands" that Boro and Leeds are interested in Coventry play-maker Sammy Clingan. I can't see it. He's their main man and while they are cash-strapped and desperate for cash and while no doubt Mogga would see him as a quality player he would certainly cost decent money and Coventry have already taken all ours for Juke.

Besides, where would he play? We are overloaded with midfielders. Unless it was a straight swap for Thomson. But Coventry couldn't afford his wages anyway. No it doesn't add up. Leeds may have dosh after selling Jonny Howson. Could be just his agent or Coventry trying to generate a bit of interest or start an auction.

We are checking it with our Coventry paper and with Mogga.

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9.30 AM UPDATE

No. Mogga has dismissed any link with Clingan in no uncertain terms. Or maybe he said "Slight" and there was a predictive text mix-up.

We have also checked with our Coventry opposite numbers and they say 'no chance.' I trust them. We worked closely on the Juke transfer last August. The Cov answer Uncle Eric (or Mr Phil in new money) has a great relationship with the manager there and between us we fitted the bits together and we were bang on.

It is interesting to look back at that one as it was an object lesson in how much a paper can know that doesn't get made public and how you have to be careful before jumping in to splash with a story so you don't look daft.

In August we knew that Juke had been to Hurworth long before he deadline, met Mogga and been impressed with his vision and philosophy and been very impressed with the training set-up (everyone is). They had outlined terms, done the medical and everything was agreed. After training on deadline day he had emptied his locker at City's raining ground and said his goodbyes.

At the Coventry paper they knew all about the mechanics at that end, how the owners wanted to sell (but boss Andy Thorn didn't) because they were desperate for money - far more so than we are - but it rested on getting Jon Parkin in from Cardiff as part of the deal that took Ben Turner the other way. That fell through because 'The Beast' wouldn't take a wage cut but at 5pm City were still anxious do the deal. They got Jody McDonald in on loan from Norwich and Juke was in the swanky suites at Rockliffe Hall pen in hand.

Then suddenly at 6pm Coventry got an unexpected windfall bonus as Birmingham sold Scott Dann to Blackburn for £7m and City had a 10% sell on clause. The cheque came in pronto and solved their immediate pressing cash flow problems and then they got cocky and tried it on with Boro and, no longer so desperate to sell, hiked the price. Boro had no more cash, not least because a mooted Swansea bid for Bates had never materialised - but even if they had were angry at the audacity and walked away.

We had earlier discussed splashing big with 'poised to sign' on the morning (I think we had it exclusive) but Mogga had warned us although most of the deal was agreed there was no guarantee and there were a few unknowns outside of Boro's control, so we held off - although we were exchanging calls and texts with the Coventry people every hour and we had a story written on the website and were ready to press the 'publish' button. I was sat there right up until midnight finger poised.

These things happen. We had it with Benni Carbone on the old March deadline day once, maybe the year before he eventually joined us on loan. Uncle Eric had bumped into him and interviewed him in the reception on condition the deal it went ahead and everything but it all fell through at the last minute. Keith Lamb rang up and asked us not to print anything and even denied point blank that he had been there. While laughing.

You have to respect those requests. Who knows, his club (Bradford then) may not have known he was there. We may have dropped them in it. Besides, if you don't they can pretty soon deny you the chance to hang around the ground/tunneland you don't get to overhear these bits of gossip or bump into people like that.

We haven't got anything like that written up this year though.


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10 AM UPDATE

Boro are at training now. Stand easy for an hour or so. Meanwhile if you are interested in other stuff:

Rangers Nikica Jelavic to Everton
Bolton have offered £7m for Palace's speed merchant Wilfried Zaha (ace against Boro)
Chelsea have signed Kevin de Bruyne then loaned him back to Genk.
West Ham are talking to Barnsley about Ricado Vaz Te
Millwall have signed Wolves striker Andy Keogh for an undisclosed fee.
Spurs are said to be weighing up bid for Fulham striker Clint Dempsey.
Wigan's Hugo Hugo Rodallega "may play v Spurs then sign for them after the whistle.

Harry Redknapp does know you are not allowed to use a mobile in the dock doesn't he?

Amusingly, after a ripple through the Twittersphere as Mackems tried to persuade themselves he would be a canny signing, the North West press are reporting that Kevin Davies could snub Sunderland and sign a new one year deal at Bolton and the weezkeezers are now denouncing him as 'worst than Jon Stead.'

Meanwhile Newcastle, desperate for a defender, look set to go back to Watford for Adrian Mariappa after last week's take it or leave it £3.5m offer was laughed away with contempt. Let's hope that goes through because Rhys Williams is also on their list. Peter Beardsley has practically had a season ticket at the Riverside this term watching the Rolls Rhys, although helpfully, on the day when Alan Pardew turned up with his own eyes Williams had a mare and was roasted by Burnley's Jay Rodriguez.

Come on you lot, join in. Hasn't anyone seem Mogga and Bausor at the Tontine with Michael Chopra and Jonathan Greening? Or any cars driving into Rockliffe with cryptic registration plates like WH3AT3R or T1 TUS?

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11AM UPDATE:

West Ham are going for it. They are making sure they have enough to ensure promotion and are in talks with Ricardo Vaz, AND Bristol City's former Boro target Nicky Maynard and have all but completed the signing of Man United wonder-kid Ravel Morrison.

Fulham are thrashing out terms with Rhys Williams' kid brother Ryan, currently worried about not getting paid as Portsmouth once again have their accounts frozen and face yet another winding up order over yet another unpaid tax bill, this time £1.6m.

Meanwhile the big deadline deal locally could be Darlington, transferred to new owners for a lot less money than Pompey have still managed to pay Dave Kitson every three months despite being in administration for ever.

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11.30AM UPDATE

The transfer runes have shifted a bit for the neighbours. Bolton are struggling to seal their £7m move for Palace prodigy Wilf Zaha so are looking less likely to let Kevin Davies leave to help MO'N turn Sunderland into a second hand Stoke-lite. They want him to stay and sulk on the bench for the rest of the season as cover.

Another few hours stewing and Martin will have to dig out Emile's number.

But Newcastle could be in luck. Watford have approached Scunthorpe for defender David Mirfin on loan in preparation for letting Adrian Mariappa join the ailing Magpies... if they reach the £5m valuation.

Meanwhile Mogga is waiting for the Batphone to ring. *Taps fingers on desk*

And I am being strongly linked with a lunchtime swoop for a highly rated BLT.

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NOON UPDATE

The kids know where it is at. Here's a perceptive CBBC spoof of the excitable Sky Sport Rolling Hysteria, starring Jeff Voetballs of Kickabout Sports News.

Meanwhile QPR are said to be in close to signing Lazio striker Djibril Cisse after he passed a medical and are also after Fulham man Bobby Zamora. We are waiting for Joey Barton to confirm it on twitter once he has finished his daily dose of Nietsche.

Latest speculative rumourgoround lunacy - Jordan Rhodes to Villa > Darren Bent to Liverpool > Andy Carroll back to Newcastle (on loan) > Demba Ba to Spurs > Adebayor out to unnamed foreign side. It could happen.


12.30PM UPDATE

*sigh* Sky Sports 'understands' that Boro have turned down a £6m bid from Bolton for Rhys Williams. That would throw a spanner in the works. If true.

But it doesn't ring true. Mogga has been adamant throughout January that Rhys and Bates will not be leaving in January unless "silly money" is offered. And he tends to be straight down the line with us.

Is £6m silly money? Yes, in the Championship it is ridiculous. If the club want to be in the play-off chase and push for promotion they need to keep their best players but at the same time there is a massive pressure to restructure too and as we have discussed endlessly, cash is short so that kind of carrot would be very tempting, especially if there is a gentleman's agreement to let him go in the summer anyway.

A hefty sum like £6m certainly could fund a new defender, another quality striker and a genuine wide man with pace - but the key to it is that they would need to be willing to come and available today. And slot straight straight in to Mogga's ethic.

Mogga has repeatedly knocked back these stories. We don't ask because we've got the message but every couple of weeks one of the lads from the nationals wanders along - probably because Newcastle don't have a game . Then the heavy-hearted sighing Rhys Not For Sale mantra is a press conference staple, along with We've Got No Money, No Really, He's Not Hiding It Behind The Sofa.

But for Sky who have to fill 286 hectares of yellow ticker tape today a Williams line like that is a God send. It is an easy story on a day when 2+2 is allowed to make not just 5 but pretty much anything you want. Owen Coyle has had Rhys before at Burnley, clearly likes him and Bolton scouts have been sat there next to Beardsley all year watching him. They also have vacancy after flogging Cahill to Chelsea. It makes sense.

BUT... does it make sense for Rhys? Is he ready to step straight into a struggling Premier League side? I'm not sure. He has bags of potential but can he step up smoothly? And more importantly, would he want too? Bolton are deep in relegation trouble and a few months time Coyle could easily be gone. A few months later Rhys could be playing in the Championship with a Bolton in disarray, in financial chaos and with a new manager who doesn't fancy him. Although, to be fair, he's been there before.

He should also take a good long look at David Wheater, struggling to hold down a place, slated by his new fans and having a torrid time in a club sleepwalking to disaster.

What do you lot think? Rhys Williams - should he stay or should he go? If he goes there could be trouble. Insert your own Clash reference here.

Anyway, there is a routine press conference scheduled for 1pm so no doubt that will be the first questions asked. Mr Phil is down there. Watch this space.

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1.30PM UPDATE

Mogga has dismissed out of hand the reports of a Bolton bid for Rhys Williams.

"There have been no bids for any of my players today," he told the routine pre-Leicester press conference. "We know there has been interest, we know other teams have watched our players and sometimes you get a tentative inquiry but as far as I'm aware there have been no bids at all."

He then reiterated the default position: He doesn't want to sell his best players and he is under no pressure to sell his best players but that should a firm offer come in that is too good to turn down then he would have to do what is best for the club - but no offers, silly money or otherwise, have come in nor would he welcome them.

Reading between the lines some feelers have been put out, one of them from our friends in the North, but having been told 'put up or shut up' and 'forget the idea that you can mug us because we are desperate' no concrete offers have materialised.

Newcastle boss Alan Pardew today has insisted at his routine pre-match presser that Adrian Mariappa is the only defender he is actively pursuing and that he has made Watford a final take-it-or-leave it offer. Within minutes of him saying that Wigan put in a higher bid so down to brinkmanship up there now.

Has Wayne Bridge arrived in Sunderland yet? Will he get through the 'peace wall'?

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2.15PM UPDATE

Bridge has signed for Sunderland. "Is he Cup tied?" people ask. Don't be daft, he hasn't played for about two years. The last time I can remember him denting the nation's consciousness was during the soap opera tabloid love rat saga involving John Terry and that was at least two 'didn't shake hands' media storms involving Mr Chelsea ago. He's been a £80k a week unused sub in the Man City stiffs for a year.

Actually, I don't think he will be eligible to play against Boro. Usually in the FA Cup you have to be registered at a club and eligible to play in the first game in order to play in the replay. I'll have to check.,

Elsewhere twitter wags are suggesting that Spurs bizarre move for Everton's stiff kneed permacrock Louis Saha is part of Harry Redknapp preparing an insanity defence in his tax dodging trial, He can always get it annulled later saying his dog Rosie made the bid.

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3PM UPDATE

Mr Phil is back from Hurworth well chilled. There's nothing much going on up there. Just boring stuff like pre-match training and the usual footballer japes, young lads swapping iPad apps, comparing tattoo sleeves and making plans for Nandos later.

I'm taking advantage of the lull to switch operations to our Acklamshire Office.


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4PM UPDATE

Well, I haven't missed much. All that has really come out of the presser at Hurworth is that Jason Steele has an outside chance of playing at Leicester tomorrow but the club are still running the rule over keeper loan possibilities. There was nothing on any possible exits with no phonecall from Bristol City on BIg Mick as yet.

Sky are rubbish. They still "understand" that Boro have turned down a £6m bid for Rhys Williams for Bolton - three hours after Mogga expressly rubbished the story at an official press conference. If only they bothered to attend these tiresome things. Surely the denial is the story now. Especailly when there are quotes to back it up. Still, the rumour if it is out there and alive on the unmanned cutandpastebot circuit, why check?

Meanwhile there has been a suggestion from Scotland that Boro may be one of the several Championship sides who have inquired about Hearts skipper Marius Zaliukas. That is not a name that has been mentioned at this end but we'll check.

Why we are twiddling our thumbs here's some left field ideas to liven up deadline day.

And with just four hours to go before SSN Net become self aware and the Series TX400 Hunter-Killer Scoopbot "Jim White" is unleashed those ever canny PR operators at Paddy Power have opened a market on the first cliche he will use. I'll have a fiver on "clock is ticking" at 5/1 and a daft quid on 25/1 outsider "sensational breaking news". Unusual betting patterns ahoy.

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5PM UPDATE:


SSN have reacted to the Williams denial story and given it a bit of superlative spin. David Craig, live from Sunderland's car park, has rung up Steve Gibson to be handed a personal rebuttal.

Craig reports that having had a £6m bid - which Mogga denied has been formally lodged - turned down, Bolton have gone above his head to make an improved offer to the chairman which has been emphatically snubbed. "I'm getting the message loud an clear that Rhys Williams is not for sale even for TEN MILLION POUNDS!" he bellows.

For me something doesn't add up. It would be very difficult for a club with Boro's current financial profile - not exactly borassic but certainly not flush and still with a pressing need to restructure and juggle a few things - to turn down £6m if it was offered (as mulled over above). And Mogga said it wasn't. But it would be impossible to turn down £10m. Hyperbole? Brinkmanship? Bad line from the Channel Islands? Hmmmm

Even it was true the problem is spending the money now anyway. A pile of eight million quid right now is useless. Unless it can central defence and be equally comfortable in the Nicky Bailey role for the next three weeks.

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6PM UPDATE:

Well,I've had my tea. Steak pie. Hmmm.

Nothing doing on the transfer front but there has been some tweaking of fixtures announced. ITV have picked Arsenal for their fifth round game on Saturday 18th 5.15pmkick-off no matter who they play. That'll be us then after we beat the Mackems.

And the match at Birmingham on Saturday March 17 has been moved back a bit from 1pm to 3pm. It was initially moved to the earler time so it didn't clash with an Aston Villa match but that has now been switched to the Sunday. Hoep you haven't booked your train tickets.

Transfer news: the window has closed in Italy meaning neither of the Milan sides can sign Tevez leaving us to endure another tedious few months of pecker contest pouting, posturing, moaning and manoevering as he looks to extract the maximum possible money out of Man City before he does exactly what he wants: retire to Argentina.

Newcastle target Adrian Mariappa has turned down a move to Wigan and has let it be known through his agent that he will only go to the Sports Direct Arena. But Newcastle's offer falls below Watford's valuation. And they say they won't increase it. Let the brinkmanship begin.

Anoraks report that in January in 2011 window shopping went well over £200m and so far this year it is stuck around £40m. So that's austerity Britain biting for you.

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7PM UPDATE

Van just turned up at Hurworth marked Acme Tumbleweed Co.

The big question now is what will happen on SSN come 8pm when all the big Premier League games kick-off with the battle at the top and the scrap for fourth spot hotting up? Will the exclusive right holders throw their cultural weight behind push their prime product or will they admit that no-one is bothered with a few forgone conclusions and Phil Thompson salivating over Liverpool v Wolves and instead focus on pandering to hysterical self-referential tittle-tattle, reporters realying uncritical regurgitation of the gossip machine stood in front of a car park doyle-fest and the Jim White hyperbole solo?

To be honest I'm amazed Sky have let the deadline fall on a matchday. Games get in the way. Newcastle's move for Mariappa looks scuppered: he's been named in Watford's team tonight at Millwall so unless Pardew gets the Ashleycopter down there with the paperwork that isn't going to happen. Although rumours persist that Rodellaga is going to play for Wigan v Spurs then sign for Harry after the game so at least it shows it is possible to combine the two with a bit of imagination.

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9PM UPDATE:

Nothing. Nowt. Nadda. Zilch.

Football is mental sometimes isn't it. Just when you think you've seen everything the totally unpredictable happens that stuns the crowd into silence and has the pundits shaking their heads in disbelief. No, not serial sporting show-off and all round doyle Jimmy Jump chaining himself to the Goodison goalpost - Andy Carroll has scored!

I see they have powered up android cliche machine Jim White on SSN. Luckily most of the footballing public are watching the match rather than this preposterous parody.

News has come in that the Joe Hart back-stick cuff protest is not Jimmy Jump after all but could be either Dave Kelly, leader of Everton dissident group Blue Union who are complaining about the fading former Big Fivers falling slowly into penury under Bill Kenwright.. Or this bloke complaining about Ryanair. We'll know for sure if his luggage turns up at Eastlands.

But the best news of all is that despite spending most of the day buying players West Ham are being battered 4-1 at lowly Ipswich. Result. Helpfully, Blackpool and Leeds just behind us are losing while Southampton and Cardiff are cancelling each other out and Hull are drawing with Doncaster.

Elsewhere bad news - Birmingham are winning so will go above us but good news as they are mullering Leeds 4-1 at Elland Road. Lethal lampost Zigic has got four goals including a seven minute second half hat-trick then been subbed soon after out of pity for the troubled and punch drunk outfit. Very funny.

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10PM UPDATE


Nothing on transfers but Boro are down to eighth in a very tightly bunched pack. It could have been far worse though. West Ham got battered 5-1 at Ipswich and everyone else around us drew bar Birmingham, 4-1 winners at Leeds.

Eighth is the lowest we've been all season but we are third on goal difference in a group on 45 points - Reading and Blackpool who came from behind late on to beat Coventry - with two more teams, Birmingham and Hull, on 46. If Boro can win tomorrow at Leicester we will go back up to fourth. If we can't then it has been the worst January ever and there will be widespread frosty chuntering. The pressure is really on now.

Meanwhile reports from Newcastle suggest they are still interested in Mariappa, who played for Watford at Millwall. They had better get a move on. He'll be out of the shower now. They've only got until 11 before the bongs. Outgoing at the Sports Direct could be Leon Best. The former Boro target (18 months ago under Strachan) is said to be talking to Celtic according to the Toon lads at the Chronicle/Journal.

Cancel that Best stuff. They say he has talked to Celtic and told them he doesn't fancy it.

Contrived link of the night so far has just been delivered: "What a transfer window for QPR: Quality. Players. Recruited...." Jim White loved that one. Queasy. Pantomine. Reporter.

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10.30PM UPDATE

West Ham have completed a £1.65m deal for Nicky Maynard which means they now have a squad about 48 strong. It means Bristol City now have cash but it is probably a bit late now to push through anything on Stephen McManus unless he has already done the prelims and medical and is down there pen in hand. Still opens the door to a possible loan move next week though I suppose.

Rhys Williams' kid brother Ryan has escaped the sinking ship of Pompey and joined Fulham for £500k plus clauses.

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11PM UPDATE

There's the bongs. Unless somehas pulled a fast one, nothing has happened. Not even a Maxi Haas. Mixed blessings. The window has brought in Lukas Jutkiewicz, Mogga's top target, even if it is four months late but the other pressing concerns - a keeper, maybe a specialist wide man, maybe a cheap but functional left-sided defender - remain.

That said, they can be still be tweaked on loans and Mogga has indicated he has a little bit of wriggle room on that. And Boro have kept their squad intact. They made it clear from early on that Williams and Bates wee not for sale and were clear and consistent in discouraging the lurking Premier League shoppers.

Now we can get back down to business with no distractions: Leicester tomorrow then Palace on Saturday are massive matches. Let's focus on those.


71 Comments

Dave on tyne said:

Nice scene-setter. But I can't see very much happening at all, which is a shame as we do need some new faces to freshen things up. A winger would be nice, if it's possible to find one that fits into Mogga's system.


Also, since when was £10-15k per month £2m per year??? How big are the bonuses?


**AV writes: Sorry, that's per week.

Andy R said:

It may not be as exciting as the deadline days of yore, but I'm off work and bedding in for the day ahead.


Crisps and dips - check. Energy drinks - check. Inappropriate sense of anticipation - check.


I would love to end the day a McManus and a Kink down, but an experienced keeper and a shiny new winger up. Loans will be fine.


Failing that, we'll just have 3 points at Leicester tomorrow.

Edinboro said:

What do you reckon the chances of getting a GK in on loan are Vic?


If Big Mick leaves do you think that plus the replay cash will let Mogga do all the business he wants to do?


**AV writes: They are looking for a keeper separately from whatever happens today. We don't get the FA Cup cash until after the final when the prize pool is allowed but Mogga may be allowed a dip in the penny jar on the strength of it.

Werdermouth said:

Is today also the deadline for loans? If not then I don't think we'll buy a keeper today as we're still only in the market for a loan keeper.


Also does the McManus potential exit mean Bates or Williams are going nowhere? After all they were in the shop window at the weekend and both played well - would Boro resist a sizeable offer or are both unlikely to pass medicals with all their scars.


BTW before you start banking the £2m of McManus's wages I think £15k a week is nearer £750k a year - still a decent chunk though.


My hope is for a genuine goal scorer as it's still clearly our weak spot and I don't think the Jukebox will be prolific.


**AV writes: You can do long term loans today. After the window close you have to wait eight days then can do emergency loans up until the deadline (the first Thursday in March) for up to 93 days or until the end of the fixture programme - that could mean a player that comes would not be available for the play-offs

Andy R said:

Werdermouth -


Yes, Mcmanus' wages might free up 15k/week, but there is also the transfer fee.
Can we get another £750k for him? £1.5m would surely be enough for 4 or 5 frees or loanees.


Time would be the real issue, especially as the McManus deal doesn't sound straightforward.

tim from sa said:

Dont think any of our main men are going to move now as the teams intrested have every chance of coming down. Obviously the Barcodes and Rhys is a different story.


Maybe as you say big Mic and Kink and one in with a keeper on loan.


All finished off with a win on Wednesday.

Jarkko said:

Re: McManus transfer - Sky Sports understands Bristol City are in the frame to sign Celtic defender Mark Wilson after a move to Leeds fell through. So more and more complicated. But we don't have that many CB anyway if he does stay at Boro.


Also Sky Sports understands that West Ham United have opened talks with Bristol City over Nicky Maynard. Their squad would be from different planet but we have #mogganaut, still.


Thirdly, Man City defender Wayne Bridge was on his way to Wearside this morning as he closed in on a loan move to Sunderland. O'Neill moved for the left-back after his defensive resources were further stretched by the loss of Wes Brown to a suspected medial ligament injury at the weekend. They must be terrified about a visit to Riverside with a batched-up side. We didn't.


AV, please update your blog as nothing happens by pressing the F5. But at least the Preview button works...


Up the Boro!

BishopsWalthamBoro said:

On the basis of one League Cup appearance for City this season, Bridge may be available for next weeks replay. Hopefully it will be the same Bridge who struggled a bit for West Ham last year? Perhaps Marvin may fancy his chances?


On a minor pedantic note your match report shows Robbo and MacDonald celebrating his goal in Home kits, could have sworn they were Back In Black.

Nigel Reeve said:

Neil Bausor at the Tontine? I've no idea, never seen the bloke, does he really exist? I know The Count only came out at night but this bloke is even more mysterious!


Mick Mac leaving looks a given to me, Mogga couldn't have given him a bigger hint if he tried, presumably Boro will oil the wheels by only asking for a 'nominal' fee (say a fiver...).


Other than a keeper in the short term which other positions need reinforcements? Another striker, but are there any available out there that will make a difference? Can we find a Branca or a Fuchs?


thamightyboro said:

Sky Sports understands that Middlesbrough have turned down a bid from Bolton Wanderers for Australian star Rhys Williams. Other sources say 6m offered.


If they came back with more and we have targets identified I'd take it personally as great as he is that kind of money (if true) is a lot of championship spending power.

Holgate Ender said:

I'd take it. He'll be off in the summer anyway. Get a good defender in plus LuaLua because we are still short of goals. Sorted.

Bob said:

Sell. He is not as good as he thinks he is. Against Burnley he looked like a six thousand pound player. Flog him and buy a new long term No 1 keeper and a brick outhouse replacement defender and we'll get promoted.

Andy R said:

I can't believe that:


a) Bolton would offer £6m for Williams or


b) we would turn it down if they did.


With that kind of money we could keep McManus and make serious improvements in the weaker areas.


Like Bolton, I'm not buying it.

J said:

Would you do £6m - £7m and a player, a Bolton fringe, ie a Sean Davis or Robbie Blake? And use the money to bring in maybe one or two more, even if just on loan, using money to pay for wages, etc.?

chris said:

Well not alot going on here.... I keep checkin but zero. Is it that nothing is happening at the Boro or are there technical issues at play?


**AV writes: Plenty of waffling going on. I'll check if there are any technical issues.

Smogonthetyne Now In Nunthorpe said:

Hmm, so we have tentative enquiries out there for in-comings. Any moves dependant on outgoings. We will struggle to flog the likes of Kink and Halliday, so we can only realistically sell one of our better, regular first teamers. If we don't go up, then Williams and Bates will move, probably for less than we have already turned down.


I don't think with the squad as it is we will go up anyway. Hopefully we get a play off spot, but that doesn't assure promotion, far from it.


Stick or twist? With the cupboard bare, a serious offer for Williams would have to be seriously considered.


Why would Lua Lua want to leave Blackpool?


**AV writes: Because he is only on a short term deal and a relative low wage and sees Boro as a better bet for the big time?

simon in stockton said:

*tumbleweed blows past*

nothing happening yet?

Williams going to Bolton? hope not!

Nigel Reeve said:

£6 million for Rhys? That's a daft rumour surely? If its true then we need to keep him and sell him for that in the summer if we don't get promoted.

Boro Doug said:

AV you teased us with the biggest breaking piece of gossip, then you went all quiet.


Did you move for the BLT at lunch?


Or on closer inspection did you opt for something more a bit more flair with a continental approach, like a panini?


Mentioning food at transfer time is a dangerous thing in my book. What if Mido is out of gaol and looking for a club (orange were my favourite)? Scary isn't it?


**AV writes: We looked at the BLT but we couldn't make the sums add up on that one: £2.49? Just to fill a gap? I don't think so. We know that other possibilities out there are available - you mention Panini and obviously that could a job but we have run the rule over Bruschetta and Fadgie too - but you have to wonder if they was any better than what we already have.

Nigel Reeve said:

When Mogga says 'as far as I'm aware...' that means he is aware. If there had not been a bid he would of said 'we've not had a bid'. To suggest he doesn't know what's going on minute to minute on deadline day is daft.


The question is are Boro going to keep Rhys Williams knowing they can sell him in the summer if needs be or are they saying to Bolton make us a bigger offer?


On the other hand, if Bolton had made an offer and Boro weren't prepared to sell now, Mogga would simply say 'he's not for sale'.

Andy R said:

AV & Boro Doug -


The Championship is no place for Paninis and Bruschettas.


You need good old fashioned buns, cobs, barms and stotties in this "attritional" league.


The question is will we finish the day with Rolls Rhys?

Boro Doug said:

**AV writes: We looked at the BLT but we couldn't make the sums add up on that one: £2.49? Just to fill a gap? I don't think so. We know that other possibilities out there are available - you mention Panini and obviously that could a job but we have run the rule over Bruschetta and Fadgie too - but you have to wonder if they was any better than what we already have."


Home made sarnies and a packet of Disco's just to brighten the desk then?

Andy R said:

Boro players as lunch foodstuffs?


Boyd - Scotch Pie
Mido - Anything from Greggs.
Digard - Croque Monsieur

ron in the delta said:

F5 works just fine thanks for that tip

'Ignorant' of boroland said:

There is nowt happening. This is pants!

Holgate Ender said:

Bolton - £10million for Williams? ... SNATCH. THEIR. BLOODY. HANDS. OFF. That money would ensure promotion. Even if Mogga couldn't spend it tonight it pays wages for three or four good PL loanees in the run in.


Seriously, he ain't all that. We rave about him because we have had a poor side for 18 montsh and got used to dross and so he looks better than the rest but he is nowhere near good enough to play in the Prem.

BoroPhil said:

That piece about Jukebox is fascinating AV, thanks for sharing it with us. Had no idea we came that close to signing him. Where would us and Coventry be now if we had?


I'm surprised people seem so willing to sell Williams. I don't think I'd let him go for £10m. How could we replace him today? If we don't go up, we can still sell him for £6m in the summer.

Nigel Reeve said:

All quiet on the western front................?

Masboro said:

On holiday at the moment and missus complaining about me being glued to the iPad - let's something happens soon to make it worth all of the earache!

Ian Gill said:

Jim White seems subdued on SkySports but Soton have just drawn level whilst West ham are losing

Ian Gill said:

Down to 7th. Booooo and Jim Smith has not turned purple yet.

Ian Gill said:

8th BOOOOO!

Is there anyone else posting?

Ian Gill said:

Hello world.


Wonder if West Hams transfer activity played a part in tonights results by unsettling players?


I will go again, cant see us reaching 500 posts.


AV, did you get my email?


I think I will go away, its lonelier than a corner seat at the Riverside.


**AV writes: Yes got your mail. May redo it and use the idea at some point. Yes, it has been quiet tonight. I think, despite the message on the front page a lot of people struggled to get past the little quirk. Very frustrating to put in a 14 hour shift and a lot of the audience can't see the fruits of my labour.


Bad workman in 'blame tools' shocker.

Ian Gill said:

Am I posting? Am I posting? Am I posting on my own? Am I posting on my own?


Off to bed soon, disappointing turn out from fans, Vic deserved a better attendance whatever the the activity in the transfer market.


Mind you, getting through wasnt easy.

Forever Dormo said:

Haven't been well tonight, but I did have a look at this blog a few times. No news is good news. I'd rather not sell Rhys Williams at this stage - we would like to go up wouldn't we?

@BoroTrepid (David) said:

I have been reading your updates all day and I haven't had any problems with the site.


Thought I would make a post to say thanks for all the updates, they have been amusing. We appreciate your effort and hard graft!


**AV writes: Why, thankyou.

boro_tom said:

So the deadline has passed and Big Mick is still here (partly down to the Maynard deal going through late I guess??)

AV any idea as to whether Bristol City are likely to come in for a loan move for him - picking up his wages for the season with a view to a permanent?

BoroPhil said:

I've been reading, don't assume just because no-one is posting that they aren't viewing, there just hasn't been much to say!

Jarkko said:

AV, happy to see the end of the window without Rhys or Bates leaving. Quite honestly I did not expect them to leave (Bolton - in the Championship next season?).


Surprised West Ham still strengthened their side - but perhaps they needed to after yesterday crashing at Ipswich. Bristol City striker Nicky Maynard was costing roughly as much as the Juke - and the latter is just 22 years old. I hope we have a diamond in the Juke for the future.


We are down to 8th now. A massive game tonight, then. Up the Boro!

Geordie la Forge said:

Dead-line day lived to its name as far as we were concerned.

Now we have stability and a centre forward time to mount a sustained challenge on the top two.

Nigel Reeve said:

Morning Mr. Gill, looks like you had a quiet evening last night!


While we were all looking through the 'transfer window' I see several teams snook up on us and dumped us in eigth place! It's a damned outrage, we need a result tonight to settle things down a little.


At least we now know Rhys Williams is worth £6 million quid!

Ian Gill said:

Nigel -


Had to keep Vic company, chap was staying up listening to the SkySports excitement and bringing all the inside stories to ourselves.


It had all the excitement of counting the vote for electing Chop Gate Parish Council.


Off to the Foxes tonight, I have never seen us beaten at Leicester but the matches have mostly been dreary to say the least.


**AV writes: Seven out of the last nine between us have been draws.

martin Bishops Waltham said:

Vic -


Boro in Bishops Waltham notices that Bishops Waltham Boro posts also...can AV put us both in touch so we can have a showdown in our small village....or meet over a pint?


**AV writes: I he wants to shout out I'll give him your e-mail address. Alternatively he may want to maintain his air of mystery. We'll see.

boro1953 said:

AV - you say we are skint,but what about our small windfall from our cup matches which could amount to half a mill plus?


If Gibbo is ambitious he could have made this money plus a bit more available to bring in another goalscorer which is badly needed as i doubt if our present strikeforce is good enough to get us in the playoffs,Emnes looks well spent and goals from midfield apart from Robson are unlikely.


It looks as if Mogga is going to have to give the likes of Franks,Reach,or Luke Williams a go,if you are good enough you are old enough and surely they cant perform any worse than the present incumbents.


**AV writes: The TV money from the two games will add up to just over £325,000. That will just about cover Scott McDoanld's wages for the rest of the season.


Richard said:

BoroPhil said: "I've been reading, don't assume just because no-one is posting that they aren't viewing, there just hasn't been much to say!"


Ditto that - for the last 1-2 years. And to paraphrase it -


"We've been watching and attending, don't assume just because we're not posting that we're not, there just hasn't been much of genuine exciting interest - one way or the other (it's called mediocrity) - to get fired up about!"


*dons flak jacket*

BishopsWalthamBoro said:

AV - More than happy for you to act as a matchmaker between Martin and I. He is more than welcome to cheer BWB Jr on in our forthcoming U-12 local derby! Failing that a beer would be good.


Well done for sticking at it yesterday. As many posters have said, we were out there, but the technical difficulties did prove a little confusing, at one point I could have sworn the PC upstairs was out of sync with the one downstairs to such an extent I thought a dateline was running through our house!


As an aside are you aware if Rhys Williams mk2 (aka Ryan) ever ventured on to our scouting network's radar? It would be good to know we ask the obvious questions like 'got any brothers who play?'


**AV writes: I think Ryan was here for trials as a youngster one summer holiday when he was about 14 and rated as 'not quite ready yet'. I'll send you each others' e-mails. Don't anyone else get any ideas. Its not bloody Friends Reunited.

Ian Gill said:

AV -


My lad was thinking of going but he had a cruciate ligament opp just three weeks ago. Making great progess and Leicester kindly offered a parking place at the ground. Weighing all things up he didnt want to take the risk - I must admit I had a part to play - of getting jostled or knocked or twisting his knee.


Maybe the thought of those dreary games and the cold didnt help.....


But fair play to Leicester for the offer, I suppose MFC would do the same.

Powmill said:

Did I miss anything ......?

Jarkko said:

Glad that we did not have internet in 1986. Comparing the Darlo situation now to times 25 years ago, this is more worrying. Now we see every twist of the process and this must drive the Darlo fans crazy.


In 1986 I knew what was happening but that was mainly through BBC World Service, letters from my pen-pal and the news paper cutting he sent to me with a weeks delay. So I still planned a 1000 mile drive down to Great Ayton, listening to the news on radio there and seeing the Port Vale game at Hartlepool.


AV, I also had a Fiesta in 1986. Yes, with a choke and a trick or two to get it started. Fuel Injection to Carburetors is like Riverside to Ayresome. Charming but not very practical.


What colour is your Fiesta, 1.0 or 1.1 litre and model year, AV? Mine was a red, 1.0 litre GX that I took to Hartlepool I think.


Up the Boro!


**AV writes: It was beige and rust. With a dodgy starter motor. But it went.

Nigel Reeve said:

Tarmo Kink wouldn't agree to terminate his contract without an incentive would he? Have the Boro said 'here's a cheque for £100k, now be on your way'?

Grove Hill wallah said:

Come On Boro Do The JukeBox Jive!

Forever Dormo said:

The real problem is when you access Twitter on your phone and also via the laptop, and now can't remember the password(s)! Supposed to have different passwords for everything, some of which change every month or so, and yet not supposed to write them down. How does that work?


There is a lot to be said for paper and ink, and for simple telephone calls.


Jarkko said:

I saw the match live at Leicester on the internet, listening to broadcast by Ali and Higgy and following #borolive at Twitter. A decent match experience some 1 000 miles away from the stadium. So a big thank you for all concerned (especially the Thai TV).


Happy with the result but our second half performance was not very good. After Leicester's double substitution we just chased the shadows as the Foxes started to pass the ball around. So a fair and good result at a form team's home arena. Especially so after being 1-0 down after just a few minutes.


Some comments by Mogga:


- "We need to win three or four games on the bounce, which will catapult us back into contention (for promotion)."


- About McDonald's injury: "He'll be out for four-to-six weeks and he's desperately disappointed in there."


Great for supporters that we have a lot of matches from now on. But is our squad large enough to cover injuries?


Up the Boro!

Ian Gill said:

A polite round of applause for a hard working 50 for Jarkko on a tricky blog, just wish Englands cricketers could show such application.


It was cold at Leicester last night but I would have settled for a point, it could easily been three but for a collective aberation.


As with the Sunderland equaliser it would be wrong to blame just one person. Haroun launched a ridiculous pass to McMahon from deep in the Leicester half. It sailed past Macca and as he ran back it was poor pass that left Steele stranded.


Then came a learning point for Hines who stopped running and watched the situation unfold. Whatever we say about Terry, in that situation he would have headed straight back to protect his goal - how many times has he got his body in the way or tidied up. Despite that Hines nearly got there but who is to say that if he kept running the ball would have broken as it did?


I have to be honest and say that our second goal came after a second half where we were second best. Mogga's subs brought a bit of life in to our play so fair play to him.


A point was fair.

Nigel Reeve said:

When we were one down after ten minutes last night I would happily of settled for a draw, by ther time we were two one up obviously I wanted the three points. Overall though a point away at Leicester strikes me as a good point and it puts us back in the top six which is important psycologically.

Geordi la Forge said:

It must have been a hard fought game. The Radio Leicester commentary team were livid about us "leaving a foot in" and thought we should have had two sent off. They were vitriolic about Lukas' treatment of St Leger.


Nigel Pearson in his post match interview was having none of it. "I know what you want me to talk about but you can judge how things went by the reaction of the players. The match was played in a good spirit, there was no animosity on the pitch". He then went on to talk about his sending off.


Good to know Boro got stuck in. Shame about another daft back-pass.


**AV writes: SSL couldn't cope with Juke and resorted to foul very early on. He was pushing and pulling and barging and a few times tried a bearhug to restrain him. The referee did nothing and eventually Lukas got a pit tetchy and shrugged him off quite forcefully and caught him across the face leaving him needing treatment and Leicester whinging a bit.


On the other hand, Rhys Williams left a foot in a few times and on another night could easily have had a few yellows. Apart from that I don't think it was too bad. Presumably the other one the Leicester fans complained about was Lukeyjuke.


The ref lost his authority fairly early on and you could see why both managers gave him a harsh post match scowl. Leicester are not a particularly badly disciplined team yet had three players booked for dissent. That was almost entirely because the referee wasn't really in charge of the game and they felt aggrieved.


Ian Gill said:

Third time lucky as the Blog tells me I have to leave my name and email address.
It also still keeps reverting to random numbers of posts and have to use the comments button.


Geordi -


In response to your post (if it is still there) about the backpass, as I said in my previous post (agin if it is still there) whilst Macca is culpable as charged, Haroun caused the intial problem and if Hines had kept running to cover he may well have cleared the ball.


As against Sunderland it was a combination of errors and the biggest share of the blame goes to the person who should have put the ball high in to the stand. Teammates compunded the problem.

John Dobson said:

I went to Leicester last night and I was absolutely frozen with nothing to get excited about apart from Tony's free kick.


I was not impressed by Juke at all. Not a single shot at goal. In fact in the second half Schmeichal had not one single save to make. Leicester were all over us once Robbo went off.


The game was so much end to end that the two keepers just resorted to punting the ball to each other. On this performance we have nothing to fear from the Foxes promotion challenge. Neither them nor us have a chance of making the top six.


Hoyte at left back meant that we had no options for a left flanked attack. Our two centre backs were great, winning 90% of headers and Tony played his heart out. Rhys looked as if he was sulking from not getting a move to the Premiership.


Overall a dismal performance and I was not a happy chappy driving back to the Norfolk coast.

gt said:

Had a brainstorm last night:


We ask Man C to loan Teves(they wont allow him to a rival)


We will pay him 100k a week untill the end of the season ,thats about £1.2 m


if we get an extra 5,000 on the gate ,maybe more if we get into a top two, x9 games woulld be £900.000 - 1m in


So for £200,000 good deal or what?

boro1953 said:

AV says money from cup TV about £325K,when you add our share of gate money and FA money it amounts to £750K at least,enough to bring in one or two on loan which is badly needed with injuries to Macdonald,E mnes and goalies.

Percypieblocks said:

Would have been happy with a point before kick off but really hacked off the way the points went.


I was watching on Thai tv (as my lads wouldn't go after the Coventry match) not the best picture, got to the freekick and the coverage went down. Went onto 'Oneboro' page and somebody was saying that it 'served St Ledger right' on looking at further back pages I found out we had scored. Went onto Sky and heard that we had conceded late on.
Bugger.


Still in the cold light of day after recent league performaces, it has to be seeen as a good point.


AV. Any news going about regarding loanees.


**AV writes: Not yet but he has a little list.

Ian Gill said:

John Dobson -


We were largely in control up to half time in a game where in truth neither keeper made a string of saves. Then we switched Robbo right and Haroun central, from then on we struggled until McMahon's bolt from the blue.

Holgate Ender said:

Why no Leicester blog AV? Didn't you go?


**AV writes: Cheeky get. I wrote non-stop 7am-11pm on Tuesday (deadline day) with the blog and a full day at the Gazette. On Wednesday I didn't get back from Leicester until 1am - I never saw my children at all that day - and was back in the office before 7am this morning and did a full shift. Sometimes its just not physically possible. Now I've unilaterally given my self a few hours off to catch up on my reading and crack open a bottle of red. May write something tomorrow. We'll see. It's a glamourous life.

Forever Dormo said:

I have just put a "wine-stopper" into a bottle of Cotes du Rhone - to give that Christmas present an unlikely first outing in February - in deference to the selfless determination of our Blogmeister to put service to the Boro community ahead of his personal pleasure. If he can wait so long for a little drinkie, the rest of the bottle can wait until tomorrow (unless mrsdormo discovers it first).


Mind you, there have probably been a few occasions on which readers of this blog would have been more than happy to "not see the children at all that day".


The next Gazette public vote will be a question as to who is responsible for Boro's financial plight and inability to put in a bid for Tevez: S. Gibson, The Honey Monster (in these things you always get one choice that is so far removed from reality that even a day-tripper from Mars would know it's incorrect) or Anthony Vickers Esq.


The thing is we are now so poor we couldn't even afford to take St Ledger on loan (what did it turn out to be - £1.5m for a few months' loan before someone saw sense and sent him back before we had to pay the rest of what would have been his purchase price?). Was that another £3m or even more? Let me think, now....St Ledger, or Bates, or Williams, or Hines? Lucky us!

Forever Dormo said:

Sorry to our sozzled Blogmeister if I caused confusion by (maybe) accidentally sending the last post twice. Of course if the FULL bottle of Merlot (Cabernet? Rioja? Tempranillo? Shiraz?) has gone down by now, I might be seeing myself twice on this Blog tomorrow.


Simoninusa tweeted yesterday that he felt the Twittersphere didn't quite match the old Virtual BJ Stand.


The problem with the BJS was that it only allowed about 30 people to comment at any one time. If AV approved you, you could comment and your posts appeared in real time (as soon as you pressed the send button). That had the advantage that you could carry on a discussion almost as if it was a spoken conversation, with others joining in.


The problem was that, if more than 30 or so were logged in, every time a new user was "approved" to post, one of the others (the first?) was booted off, so it remained at about 30. Users had to be approved, as it might otherwise have been possible for people to join, and then send threatening, libellous or similarly offensive posts for which our beloved Trinity Mirror (or AV) might have been held responsible.


Many others read the live Boro Match Blogs, particularly when Boro played away, but didn't contribute. The 30 or so whose comments were printed automatically were the tip of the iceberg.


But it was fun! Questions were asked about the music being played at the ground, the lack of roof cover offered to away suppporters, and (the Big One) the relative merits of Pressroom hospitality at the various away grounds. Culinary delights one week followed by poor offerings the next, or information that the national boys had raided the table like locusts before our trusty regional or local scribes had got to the front of the queue. It was dog-eat-dog some weekends.


When our Blogmeister was about to head down to the tasty lamb hotpot (or the dog-eared ham sandwiches) he'd tell us to be on our best behaviour because we'd be on our own for a while before he reported back. No chinese burns, no bullying, no swearing - it was like being in a library at times (Ha!).


I think by popular acclaim it was agreed the Boro half-time commestibles of choice were Doritos washed down with whisky, but there was a lively argument for various wines. Sandwiches got a mention in despatches, and even non-alcoholic drinks.


Some contributors should have been working. Some had to leave early to GO to work! And the housing market in the USA was regularly debated.


Given time, the Virtual BJS could have developed into a dating-site for far-flung Boro fans. It was not to be!


I suppose if the Virtual BJS was still in existence, we could have been sending e-mails from our smart-phones, androids or whatever. Mind you, it did tend to go down sometimes and if hundreds or more were trying to do this at a home game (rather than at home via their computers), the local "cell" might not have been able to cope with the load. And it would have interfered with watching the game to keep up with the stream-of-consciousness banter.


It is still missed, though. A good idea but the software/hardware wasn't really reliable enough - and it seemed as though, at some grounds, there would be no possibility of coverage until they managed to come out of the 19th Century.


And those now following matches via Twitter: only certain words were allowed, to prevent a foul-mouthed free for all. Obviously a Boro goal was quickly communicated by EIO EIO (with info following later as to scorer and other details). The officially designated signal to show a goal had been conceded was, of course B*GGER. You will see it on Tweets.


Not sure what a Martian would think if he alighted by mistake on the #borolive Twitter site....but it is generally all good banter. And contributions are received from the USA, South Africa, Australia, equatorial oil-exploring Africa, Germany, Finland and even far-flung parts of England. If you are not at the game, put the radio on, and start Tweeting as well.


It's only a matter of time before that Martian joins in. (And, by the way, I'm plumping for that bottle of red having been a naughty little Rioja).


**AV writes: Ooooooohhhhh! Close. I thought about the Rioja but went for a Chianti. Good post. The problen with the BJS was that it was a full time job for me approving comments from beyond the chosen 30 and it went down too often. Good fun though.


Ian Gill said:

Fraternal greetings to brother Vic, as one of the fiew who kept you company on Deadline Day, went to Leicester but returned with the brass parts severely chilled but still attached, then posted throughout Thursday I can understand your need for some Chianti.


If I may be so bold as to mention it but Tesco do a very good, own label Beaujolais. It also has a screw cap - apparently some people can make it last a couple of nights but that is as rare as a Thommo an Emnes headed goal.


I miss the BJS, just cant get on with Twitter. I liked the banter and the fact we didnt take ourselves too seriously. The technology wasnt up to it and often it just seized up in the second half of matches.


But we have moved on and a visit from Palace looms. Another physical game in prospect before the Cock of the North battle with Sunderland, whilst the Trophy Virgins are doing well in the league the cup battle is atarting to gain some importance.


Win that and we get an almost certain televised match again to fill the coffers. But the most important thing is the league.

Grove Hill wallah said:

Boro Take The Honours From Palace.

Pedro de Espana said:

Off the subject of football, and talking wines, the Telegraph did a tasting on a Lidl selection. One rioja came out well, Cepa Lebrel Joven, 3.99 I believe, only 2.29 here in Spain.....excellent, although the crianza is even better.

boro1953 said:

On the subject of red wine when we go on hols to Spain we always look out for Albaceta which is great for the price (about 2 euro or less a bottle). Found it in Spar at cala millor last time.


See we've drawn a blank again at home, at least Curtis Main impressed when he came on.

Forever Dormo said:

Well, I COULD say that was a very tense game, where defeat, but also victory, could have been sealed at any moment (right up to the final whistle) and that it was therefore very exciting. Especially as a win would take us back up to 4th in the table.


I COULD say that it was diverting to watch with a sense of interest as an unfamiliar Boro line-up set about Cystal Palace. That it was a crisp (well, extremely crisp) February afternoon as our team, well up for the game after a very creditable display last week against Premier League Sunderland, and with the prospect of the replay just a few days away, faced a team lower in the Championship, and at home. The prospect of 3 points!


Actually, on reflection, although I COULD say those things, it would fool nobody who was there.


There were some brightish spots though. It was good to see Curtis Main come on as a late substitute and look enthusiastic and a useful potential partner for Jukebox. Steele also did OK despite clearly not being anywhere near fully fit to play.


I suppose although it might previously have been said "we can't rush the lad into the team before he is ready", circumstances might very well force Main into the team, with Emnes and McDonald out because of injury. Sometimes these "circumstances" can be looked back on later as the opportunity that X, Y or Z grabbed with both hands - "and just look at where he is now!"


Sorry, chaps, but it was a hideous afternoon. Cold, damp and uncomfortable. And that was just walking to and from the ground, and then sitting in the stand. Watching the game was even less comfortable. The words "waste of an afternoon" were heard frequently in the concourse. Depressing.


However, it could all be put right by a winning display on Wednesday in front of an almost-full Riverside. Surely the team, or that part still fit enough to turn out, will be "up for it"?

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