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Raise A Glass To Boro's Record Start

By Anthony Vickers on Oct 1, 11 09:27 PM


LET'S measure those glasses.

The best start for a century, five Championship clean sheets in a row, 14 games undefeated in the league and only the post (twice) and an astonishing double save stopped confident Boro claiming a seventh successive away win... that glass looks well over half full.

Another two points dropped and four games now without scoring as the winning run away from home comes to a halt and the team slide down the table? You need another drink.


Boro's 0-0 draw at in-form Reading was far from dull. Tony Mowbray's steely side dug in to defend as the home team roared at them in the opening exchanges, attacking wth pace and width but failing to bring a real save from Carl Ikeme. , then gradually asserted themselves with patient passing. By the end Boro were pummelling a team desperately hanging on.

Boro started slowly and were ragged and tentative and were forced into some frantic defending with Stephen McManus twice needing to make sliding blocking tackles but having weathered the storm they looked increasingly comfortable as they passed and probed, if sometimes they were guilty of over-elaborating on the edge of the box.

Boro had the best chance of the first half as Scott McDoanld's stabbed shot then a close range volley from Marvin Emnes foreced Reading keeper Adam Federici into a superb double save.

Then as the built up a head of steam through the second half they forced play deep into the Reading half and went close as Emnes put in a header that grazed the outside of the post, then McDonald screwed a sitter wide, then Robson crashed a 25 yarder against the upright. After the game Reading boss Brian McDermott - cousin of mad scientist chef Heston Blumenthal, FACT - admitted he was glad to escape with a point.

Of course, a win would be better and Boro players were rightly disappointed at failing to push home their advantage and take all three points. Looking at the last three results it would be easy to say it was a sticky patch. And it is.

But Boro have played three tough teams in eight days and come through unbeaten, and in truth, looked the better side over all three of those games. They have not been bore draws. In every one of theose games Boro have given it a good crack, played enterprising football and created some good chances,. The goals will come again,. No panic.

And the solidity of the team should not be overlooked. Five clean sheets in a row is not a bad record. And it is not just the defence but the whole team that are digging in, working hard, getting back to block and tackle, track and mark and make it very hard for the opposition.

Three 0-0 draws in a row is not completely unknown. The last time it happened was back in September 1973... just as Jack Charlton's was beginning to fit the pieces of his promotion winning side into place.Not losing is a very good habit to get into.

Boro have now gone 10 league games unbeaten making it the best start to the season since 1910. That nudges this current team pastthe mark of nine unbeaten set by Bruce Rioch's 1986-87 team, a side that was captained by Mowbray and also went on to promotion.

It;s been a great start, far and away better than anyone but the most foaming wild eyed optimistic could have predicted in pre-season. Fill your glass. Have a beer. There's a long way still to go but there's already plenty to celebrate.

106 Comments

Jeffrey said:

GOOD GOOD GOOD. Well done boys WELL DONE I am over the moon Tony Mowbray OVER THE MOON . We are up in a promotion place (ok its early doors, but we are up there) and unbeaten till now UNBEATEN Only team in the Championship unbeaten.


Now it’s an international break - good. Time to recover, time to train, time to prepare. When the break is over watch them come out of the traps. We have Thompson and Arca to find places for, we have a new striker pushing for game time, we have kids pushing for the bench or the team and with the Pride of 86 back thanks to Mowbray WE HAVE A SEASON TO RELISH

never give up on boro said:

Slow start but a storming finish which should have ending up with us taking the three points.


Worrying when we dont take open goal chances(McDonald) unlucky Robson hitting the post and poor Marvin was on the way celebrating when he realised his header hadn't gone in.


Defence is sorted and Ikeme confidently smothering every oportunity Reading made.


Team looked better when Thompson and Arca came on which coincided with our storming finish and more chances created. Not sure about Nimely yet hasn't had enough minutes on the pitch to pass judgement.

Grove Hill wallah said:

Just look at the league table!!

steve said:

Bravo AV i totally agree that's is more of a case of 'half full' than the defeatist 'half empty'.


I went to the game yesterday as I am a Boro exile living in Portsmouth so for me its a 'home game'. The game was a classic game of two half's as Reading started at a pacey tempo and tested Boro's impregnable back line without really testing Ikeme but giving our back five a good workout with Bates and McManus participially impressing.


Just one note from that I would like Boro to take note and maybe start games at the Riverside with a higher tempo.


That said we looked comfortable as a defensive unit and I never felt like the game would ever go away from us and of course bar a stunning double save from McDonald and then Emnes we could have been winning at half time.


The second half was much more like it as Boro seemed to come out with much more belief that they could win the game. The two efforts that hit the post were more 'unlucky' than misses and I like everyone thought Emnes had scored a 'stunning' centre forwards header only to see a goal kick given.... damn that post!!


The fact is it was for both teams the third game in a week and as a rule teams tend to struggle. The big real 'positive' is that we looked so much fitter in the last 20mins and for me if we had another 10-15 mins at them we would have nicked a winner as they looked dead on there feet.


Positives then?? The second half performance should have and most times will win most away games this season. I thought the back five were again superb with Bates and McManus very commanding and we looked a real threat going forward. Also Nicky Bailey again superb as the 'enforcer' and gathering a bigger fan club as each week goes bye.


'Glass half empty' moments??....ok its hard to moan when we are sitting second and unbeaten but my 'minor' gripes are only minor and not a rant.


We looked far better and balanced when Arca came on for Hoyte. I am not jumping on the Hoyte band wagon but again he 'imploded' in good positions yesterday. I can see a place for Justin in the away games but i really think we must look at bringing a more attacking minded player for tough to break through home matches.... Martin,Arca,Thomson or even Kink all better IMO.


Scott McDonald - I actually think Scott is a integral part of the team and the way Boro are 'set-up' and I agree with Mogga in that he will probably be Boro's top scorer this season. That said when we were scoring for fun his lack of goals is not a problem but it has become more evident in two of the last three games where he has missed very good chances.... the one yesterday was a nailed on 'sitter' after amazing work from Robson laid on a chance six yards out for his old Celtic pal.


I really rate Skippy but he needs to find the net before his confidence goes. This is of course not helped by the lack of no other experienced centre forward at the club. Are we really going to try to make it until January with two forwards and a Man City youth player? Brave move!!!


My only other 'gripe' is are we really going to just let Carl Ikeme go back to being Wolves 3rd choice keeper when his loan is up? I am amazed that we are not looking in to bringing him in on a permanent deal. We have the best defensive record in the champo and for the first time in years a 'commanding' keeper who can kick and deal with the physical side of the game and we are going to let him go?


Ok I am all for bringing on Boro youth but is Steele better than Ikeme? Also he has been out for three months so is going to be no where near match fit. I really see a 'problem' coming when Ikeme leaves, just hope i am wrong.


So all in all a very good start from the Boro that could have been better (defo should have beat Pompey and Coventry).


I would have taken this start in a flash at the start of the season so what's to grumble about??

If you are feeling a little 'down' about things just think back to this time last season... Strachan in charge with no plan 'A' never mind 'B'. No Joe Bennett/Emnes, Williams injured, Bailey looking a flop, kris Boyd trying to lead the line, Crippling wage bill, Every player bar Bennett playing LB.... Think it was around now Barry Robson gave it a go:-(. Goal keeping errors and last min goals against every week.


Feel better??? I do.


UTB!!!!

Ian Gill said:

AV - The start to your article was how I was going to start my post. The only difference was my half empty glass would been have in the dry cycle of the dish washer and well and truly volumetrically challenged by adding in 'knocked out of the trophy we cherish, not won at home since mid August, not won for four matches'


Daughter off to Uni today so she was out with Mrs G shopping as I cleaned the BBQ. Imagine their faces as they came back to see me in the glorious weather listening to the match on the laptop. The beauty of wireless!


An odd situation in the championship as clubs are determined to allow us to remain in second place whilst we keep drawing.


A good time to draw breath and clear the mind, the Mogganaut can be put on the ramp and giving a thorough check over.


What a difference a year makes.

never give up on boro said:

post by "Steve"


100% right with everything!


Even Emnes thought he had scored yesterday, he was about to go on his celebration run.


Even more importantly should be a campaign to keep Ikeme permanently. I dont think we would be in the position we are now and have the least goals against in the whole of the football league if Jason Steele had been fit at the start of the season.


Would be mad to throw away the excellent start to the season for the sake of relatively low wages for him seeing as Danny Coyne is out of contract at the end of the season anyway

David of Redcar said:

When a bottle is half full it is also simultaneously half empty, that's the thing about halves, there are two of them.


The half of Boro that away from home is head and shoulders above the rest - the Boro that thrusts and parry and moves with pace is something to be proud of, and could well run away with this league.


Yet, the other half - my Boro - the one I see - the one that has only won one game and threw away three of the others and could have lost the fifth. Is what it is - a mid table outfit that runs out of steam and ideas in the last 1/3rd.


I am no armchair chicken runner - just your average season ticket holder who has only seen his team win one game. Strange - I would have settled for mid-table and find this Indian summer global warming ( 1st Oct sat on the beach ) 2nd place a little too freaky to come to terms with at the moment.

Smogonthetyne said:

Cheers, I'll drink to that. Five consecutive clean sheets is a massive effort by the whole team. Brilliant to see.


The more I think about it I am sure we are just like Swansea from two seasons ago. Sadly they missed the play-offs that year, but were still riding an upwards trend. And look at them now, the dream team of Lethal and Danny G up front. I'm not sure who's copying who?

halifaxp said:

Yesterday, after we suffered our worst forty-five minutes so far this season, morphed into one of the most reassuring days: Mogga dealt masterfully with the problems left by not having Joe B bombing down the left-hand side of the pitch. He tried swapping Tony Mc with Justin; that didn't work; so he brought in two creative, but slower, players who also give opposing teams plenty of headaches; and that reduced Reading to looking (as Burnley had) like Strachan's headless-chicken Boro. This man can manage!


Two things emerged clearly from Reading for me: the knockers of Joe B need to think very carefully about what is missing from our team when he is; and Kevin Thomson may be very hard, from now on, to leave out of the side. The Red Army is still on the rise!

'Ignorant' of boroland said:

This break is a great rest for the first 11 who have put in many good shifts lately. I think we need Arca in the starting line up to create more chances.

Nigel Reeve said:

Comparisons with Charlton's team, only five goals conceeded to date! A longer unbeaten run than Rioch's team, very very impressive. And this team hasn't peaked yet.
It's turning out to be an exciting season!!

Jarkko said:

Incredible start to the season. Or it started already in April.

I have difficulties to believe that I have seen the last league defeat of Boro - with Halifaxp's family at Burnley back in April.

Well done Boro! Long live the Mogganaut. Up the Boro!

Percypieblocks said:

Agree with the comments appertaining to the keeper situation, I'll be amazeed if Mogga isn't thinking in a similar way.


What I would like to see and again I'm sure that Mogga has looked into this is taking on loan somebody like Bednar (I think) of WBA. He's aplayer I feel would improve us quite a lot, he works his doodahs off and also has a good touch, besides being built like the proverbial brick outhouse.


All in all though it's looking very positive, the clean sheets were totaly unexpected.
More of the same please lads.

Jarkko said:

Yes that 0-0 draw equaled a record unbeaten run at the start of the season that has stretched all the way back from 1910.


But by dropping points away, means we have a "must-win" game at Riverside next - in a fortnight. We really need to win against Millwall to keep our 2 points per match average now.


I trust Mogga will find a way of doing it. I have a feeling Thomson will start then for the first time this season.


Up the Boro!

Ian Gill said:

Mixed thoughts about MacMoses leaving Forest. A lot of fans thought he was on a hiding to nothing fighting the group that controlled purchases.


Billy Davies had the same fight but reached the playoffs twice. As my Derby supporting colleague said 'no Billy Davies team would have lost from 1-0 up against ten man for 88 minutes'.


Moving on, Halifaxp, lets see Mogga sort out the subs and formations at home, we are so close to piecing it together. I stick by my view that if we have a decent run with availability there is a lot of quality in the squad.

Jarkko said:

Nigel Reeve said: "Comparisons with Charlton's team, only five goals conceded to date!" Yes, and why not!


I see that every other team in the Championship have already lost at least twice this season but the Mighty Boro are still undefeated.


If Smogon is to be believed then clean sheets win matches. Every good team is based on a solid defense. And we have the most solid in the whole country.


I am sure we will score goals as every Mogga side has done so earlier. As we did also a few matches back.


Perhaps we could take a defender out and replace him with Arca in midfield?


It's already turning out to be an exciting season!! Up the Boro!

Ian Gill said:

Vic -


Notice the testing post. I have found that the following tends to work.


The system no longer seems to 'remember personal info'.


I always copy my post be fore sending because first time round it often says wrong text and throws it out. Second time round it accepts the post.


**AV writes: Yes, it did that to me a few times yesterday when I tested it from home. I just hope it doesn't put anyone off posting.

smoggypaul said:

As a little aside, I work in Reading and just talking to one of my colleagues about Saturday apparently the Boro team coach had to ask directions to the ground from the City Centre.


The Madejski being right on the M4 Juntion 11 interchange, several miles from the centre of Reading, the obvious answer was 'why are you here?'


Back came the reply 'we had to stop off for someone to buy a new pair of football boots'!


OK, 'fess up, who left their boots at home on Saturday - and did leaving the 'lucky shooting boots' behind contribute to missed chances???

Chris from Beverley said:

Steve, Never give up on Boro -


I have been like a broken record on here, championing Ikeme's case to be Boro's permanent number 1.


However, I'm not sure on the league rules on this subject, perhaps AV can enlighten us.


I am I correct in thinking that he is currently on an emergency loan and after 1st November's game at Doncaster, that we can't re-sign him until the January transfer window opens?


Confused of Beverley......


**AV writes: yes, we've have had him for the maximum 93 days by then. Can't do anything again until January.

Jarkko said:

Ian and Vic,

As said, the system no longer seems to 'remember personal info'. It was the same with me but no other problem.

Up the Boro!

Ian Gill said:

Vic -


One thing about the Captcha is that sometimes the letters are clear and sometimes not.


I hope it doesnt put anyone off but it will make the 100's tricky with reposts, not letting people in etc. I wonder what Sir Henry's view is on the subject?


It will have an effect on highly tuned posters such as GHW and the resurgent Len Masterman. How do they time their posts?

Handsome Fat Northerner said:

It was the second game of the season for me and my boy - we went to Selhurst Park the other week.


I thought that, whilst Boro were very good at maintaining shape (the wingbacks were stuck to the touchline and were always an outlet), the space between defence and attack was very compact.


This is obviously why we are hard to break-down and strong on the counter.


But it meant that the onus of creativity was very much on the overlapping wingbacks. Hoyte found himself in acres of room time and time again but there was no end product. McMahon, I thought, provided some great crosses.


But it wasn't until Arca came on and provided some incisive passing from the left that the game really swung in boro's favour.


Also, Nicky Bailey was outstanding - he was first to every second ball and knock-down. He pretty much controlled the midfield.


I met my Reading supporting mates after the game and they were mightily relieved to have grabbed a point from that game.


I'm usually a glass-half-empty grumpy git I must admit, but there's something about this team that is maybe making me start to think a little differently. Its made me post something remotely meaningful for the first time on here!

tim from sa said:

Another great result away from home.


Agree on the goalkeeper. Unfortunately for Steele we only started to come right last season with Smith and continue with Ikeme. A tough one for TM.

Nigel Reeve said:

Opening a word document and then copy/paste is fine for a longer post; it’s a pain if you just want to post a brief comment. So is entering your personal details every time you post.


Rant over.


We can bask in the glory of second spot for two weeks now!


Three 0-0’s in a row may not look like great form but given that two of those were against Leicester and Ipswich who are two of the form teams then they look like reasonable results. We’re still playing well and creating chances, so there’s no loss of form on Boro’s part.


I also think we haven’t fielded our strongest team yet, I’m looking forward to seeing Tommo getting a run in the team, that should give us more creativity.


InGabon said:

I've had four Captcha's in a row that I couldn't make head nor tail of!! How is this going to stop irate Leeds fans posting bile on this site?


First the BJ and now this....wrong text?mumble grumble bah.


Was trying to ask whether Paul Smith might be available after Ikeme has to go back and other things that I've forgotten about.

copyandpasteinho said:

What are we going to talk about for the next two weeks, it’s a struggle to find inspiration when everything’s going so well.

Ian Gill said:

'copyandpasteinho said:


"What are we going to talk about for the next two weeks, it’s a struggle to find inspiration when everything’s going so well."


The good thing is that we will spend the same time posting but with less to talk about. The new Captcha is a brilliant device in that it take three times as long to say the same thing as before.


Nigel Reeve -


I agree with that but it is easy for me to do so as I dont go to all the home matches.


Having seen four draws in five matches some home fans may be a bit miffed, not in a nasty sense but in feeling a little bit cheated.


It is an excellant start to the season, just get that feeling that we have left something behind, just a niggle that we havent got the best out of our home games.


As I have said before this isnt a boo, I am chuffed to bits and I will settle for the season finishing now.

Nigel Reeve said:

That Captcha bloke is really winding me up now…………………..


Ian –


You make a good point, I like you tend to see a lot more away games than home games and as an ‘ex-pat’ my Boro experience is also driven by what I read and watch in the Gazette/Boro World etc. This means I’m currently basking in the luxury of supporting an unbeaten team.


It must be somewhat frustrating for the 20000 ‘home’ fans who regularly pile down to the Riverside to see the team draw….again. For them it must be a somewhat paradoxical experience, second top of the league but because of away form.


If we sustain a promotion challenge through the season, then that will change of course. Hopefully starting a week on Saturday.


One advantage of having to copy and paste a word document is that my spelling and grammatical errors are highlighted so there may be some improvement in others being able to make sense of what I post, although I wouldn’t hang my hat on that!

Richard said:

InGabon:
Maybe you're a virus?

InGabon not going to post until site fixed said:

Richard:

I've been called a pest before so I'll take virus as an upwards step...

Simon in Stockton said:

I'm not even going to write owt, everytime I do I get an invalid entry! whatever that is.


At least we have something to complain about!


Bloody Typical, Typical Boro. Never been the same since Paylor left.


Is Captcha related to Strachan?


**AV writes: I'm trying to get it removed but we need to be sure first that if we unscrew the Captcha gizmo the wheels won't fall off again.

Fred Karno said:

Nigel -


As a home season ticket holder, what frustrates me is not the entertainment (a sight better than last year), or even dropping some points.


The real frustration is the knowledge of where we could have been if only we could have ought one good striker before the transfer deadline.


I suspect if we had offloaded Lethal earlier, we might just have managed to afford to bring in another striker. Lets face it, even though we've done very well, another good striker, with a different style, would probably have turned one - probably more- of those draws into a win.


We don't understand the full financial restrictions they might be working under. I presume we could not offer any money for anyone until we had cut our bills substantially.


All the same it does make me - and a lot of others - wonder just where we could have been. Miller for example seems to be able to score for Forest despite their awful start and looks as though he would have been a good buy with his strength and style.


I guess however well a team does, it is easy to dream about what might have been if only.....


**AV writes: There is clearly money available for the right man because Boro offered something close to £1m for Luka Jutkiewisc on deadline day.


I think the key is "the right man." Boro get offered strikers on loan every day but Mogga wants a players who suits his style of play, who fits the financial template, has a compatable personality to slot into the squad, who wants to come here.

Jarkko said:

“I’ve always said Gordon Strachan signed good players, but you need to give Tony Mowbray some credit because he’s come in and made us play fantastically and you can see the success we’ve got from it” said Barry Robson.


I agree. I did not enjoy the Strachan time but he wasn't an idiot either. So there was a meaning for him, too.


Let's just forget the past now and enjoy the present. In Mogga we trust. Up the Boro!

John Powls said:

I agree that it's a much better than expected, two points a game average - and it's diffcult to argue with second - though some tweaks could have had us top!! That's greedy, though.


Boro can now use the International Break yawn to get some R&R and get Joe Bennett fit again.


If I were Mogga, I'd also be thinking about just how long I could be stubborn enough to ignore all the evidence and keep playing Hoyte - particularly when Tony Mc showed again just how effective he can be at right wing back and we have options for the back three - even more so when Seb Hines is recovered.


The only support Mogga seems to advance for Hoyte is his 'athleticism' - but when have we even seen that?


I might also be reviewing whether trying to soldier on without another loan striker makes sense.


Yes, he has players who aren't getting games - or even getting on the bench - but neither are they the sort who'd get you goals, either.


Three nil nils on the bounce tells just as much of a tale at one end of the pitch as the other and the two first picks are always going to go through lean spells in a season.


And, if he can only afford one loaner, why Alex Nimely who is a lightweight version of M&S and Scott McDonald and, so, offers Boro nothing different as an option. When that loan's up or could be terminated, he could look elsewhere.


But that's all fine tuning. Keep on truckin', Mogganaut!

copyandpasteinho said:

The sooner AV ships Captcha out on loan the better, perhaps the Evening Standard can be persuaded to take him on?


Are we now in a position where the question this season is ‘automatic promotion or play offs?’

jeffrey wood said:

We have an excellent young keeper in Steele and I feel sure he will go on representing us for many years to come being part of our successful future and winning many honors.


However hats off to Big Ikman, he like Smith last season has preformed heroics behind the best defense outside the Premiership and would be a fantastic acquisition in January if any money were available.


However, tell me is anyone surprised that Mobray picked a very good goalkeeper when we needed one. When I see Turnbull at Chelsea, it always rankles as in my opinion he could and should have been in a Boro shirt and possibly an England shirt for many years.


So boys, how aboutthis one.... If we could choose, which Boro boy would you like to see back home?

Wheater who does not seem to be at his best or appreciated at Bolton?


Cattermole who’s Makem adventure has hit the buffers?


Morrison who’s pace and scoring ability were used so well by Mowbray?


Brunt who can play anywhere along the front line?


Taylor who’s passing and awareness linked so well with boy wonder on the left?


Downing who’s is showing the world his ability?


Woodgate who is performing well for Stoke?


Johnston who only gets the odd game to show his silky skills?


Turnbull who is almost a forgotten man at Chelsea?


Wilkshire who was the second kid from down under to come though our academy?


Graham who scored goals throughout his career but never got a chance at Boro?

So there you are, I have given you 11 a full team of ex Boro starlets who because of mismanagement particularly by G.S.1 and then G.S.2 all this talent was lost to us. More many more slipped the net or were discarded by blind coaches


Over the years, we have seen so much talent leave, many the likes of Coops, Pally and Mogga all wanted to come home and represent this fantastic club. Many of those above never wanted to leave and may jump at the chance to play for Tony Mowbray and his resurgent BORO


So my question to you all is: Ifthe opportunity presented itself which ex-Boro boy would you like to see pull on the shirt once again?

Jarkko said:

Jeffrey -


I think you meant Adam Johnson (and not Austrian Craig Johnston)?


I don't think we miss a defender or midfielder now. So for me it's either Graham, Johnson, Downing or Morrison but I would go for Johnson. We did not see enough of him (which was not Downing's fault either).


Good start for a debate, Jeffrey. Up the Boro!

Andy R said:

copyandpasteinho said: "Are we now in a position where the question this season is ‘automatic promotion or play offs?"


No. The squad isn't being tested yet (at least not to breaking point). When the winter sets in, the pitches get heavier, the games come thick and fast and the injuries and suspensions start to take their toll, then I think we'll see our true relative squad strength.


That's when I believe West Ham and Leicester, two sides who would appear to have two decent players for every position, will come to the fore. They can swap players in and out without losing too much.


Boro (and Southampton) to me have a first eleven (or possibly thirteen) capable of matching anyone in the division (and beating them), but probably not enough after that.


We've started so well that we probably need to take only half the points still on offer to make the playoffs, and I've upgraded my expectations from a pre-season prediction of 8th-with-a-playoff-chance to top 6, but expecting any more with a small squad (midfield aside) is too much in my opinion. That's not meant to be defeatist, just a healthy respect for our contemporaries.

Andy R said:

Jeffrey -


Adam Johnson for me. We could do with a wide man who can go past a player and create something out of nothing. He's a matchwinner, though I do really like Morrison (very much a Mowbray sort of player).


Downing is the other one in the same class (possibly higher) but his chief asset of crossing would be largely wasted on our current setup. Johnson's a better fit technically, although you could argue that Downing's mentality/workrate is more suitable.

Qingdao-Boroboy said:

Very good to see the Boro doing so well especially after the disappointment at the start of last season. Mowbray has transformed the team.Still another 35 games to go but we should be in the frame at the end. The state of play at Xmas will be more indicative of the end of the season.

Ian Gill said:

Boro player who left?


Brian Clough, his goals would have us top and unbeaten this season.


Just had a quick scan of any sport to watch and up came Beach Volleyball. Brazil? California? Being lucky I got pictures of a blokes match in England!


You can tell it is international break.

Ian Gill said:

Very thin on the posts front, any way of assessing failed attempts? Does the system record misses as well as hits?

Jarkko said:

Ian Gill said: "Very thin on the posts front..."

Perhaps because we are still unbeaten and all the other teams have lost already twice this season. Everybody is waiting for a failure in a coming home match?

Let's enjoy the break, though. A 101-year-old record equaled now. If we win or draw the Millwall match at home we set a new all-time record! So plenty to look forward to.

Up the Boro!

copyandpasteinho said:

Jeffery –


Downing. He’s head and shoulders above all other ex-Boro players. Woodgate after that, he’s class too but injury prone .


All the others are average to poor at Premiership level, which is where we were when they were off loaded. Adam Johnson I suspect has an attitude problem which might de-rail his career if he’s not careful.


Am I alone in questioning the idea that we have a ‘thin’ squad? I don’t see it, we have good cover in defence, more decent midfielders than you can shake a stick at and three strikers. So at most we are one striker light.


But every supporter of every club thinks they have an irreplaceable striker. Take manure for example, would their fans be happy if Rooney was injured and replaced by Owen or Berbatov (both has beens).


I think our squad depth is fine, if we don’t go up it won’t be because of quantity.

borobythesea said:

copyandpasteinho,
Berbatov past it? Perhaps Boro could get him on the cheap then.

tim from sa said:

Definitely need a striker and very soon a keeper.


Very happy with what has happened so far. The draws were against good opposition and winning ways will return soon i think.


Would like to see Johnson back but unrealistic.I also think Turnbull made a mistake going to Chelsea not wage wise but definatly career wise.

Andy R said:

copyandpasteinho


I do think we've got a thin squad. Every squad is deep if you're prepared to go down to youth level, but the best squads have two senior players for every position.


Ideally, we'd have another senior keeper, left back, two wingers and a striker (or two).


Right now it's the first team (which includes a few kids), then the kids. Only in central midfield does Mowbray have genuine options, the rest of the team pretty much picks itself.

Bob said:

Good question Jeffrey, should keep us busy for the next couple of boring weeks.


My pick isn't on your list... Tuncay, presently bottom of the first division with Bolton, but definitely not his partner Wheater. Our defense has improved significantly since he moved. Another good piece of business on our part.


I read a lot about how many 'stars' have left Boro, but I don't really see the evidence. I can only think of three (in my era) that have gone on to have stellar careers...Graeme Souness, Gary Pallister and Craig Johnstone. Plenty of silverware between those three. I can't think of too many others that would have needed to furnish the house with a special trophy cabinet.


Of the more recent batch, Downing has the potential. Like our Brazilian friend Copyandpastinho, I'm yet to be convinced Mr Stepover Johnson has the goods. The rest are lower to mid table first division, and some struggle at that level.

John Powls said:

'Flak for Justin Hoyte baffles Tony Mowbray'


I'm baffled that he's baffled. He's normally such a sensible chap whose post-match comments reveal he's seeing what we see in a game.


Why doesn't he see that playing Hoyte - as at Reading on Saturday - is like playing with 10 men.

Andy R said:

Bob -


I take your point on Boro "stars" that have left, but it's all relative isn't it?


It doesn't matter if James Morrson never wins a bucket load of trohpies, it only matters if he's better than what we've got.


That said, there's very few players that have left that I've had much truck with. Recently, most have been financially motivated and beneficial to all parties. Others I've been glad to see that back of.

copyandpasteinho said:

John Powls –


We played against Reading with ‘ten men’ yet defended strongly early on when under pressure and then ripped into Reading as the second half came to a close.


Or, Hoyte playing out of position is a better player than you or I think he is, but is as good as Mogga thinks he is?


Andy R –


We have cover for every position, we have two good keepers, two good right backs, four very good centre backs, Bennet/Arca/Hoyte at left back, too many midfielders to list, most of which are good enough not to be pigeon holed as wingers/central midfielders and three strikers. There’s nothing ‘lite’ about Boro’s squad.

Andy R said:

copyandpasteinho


I think we'll have to disagree on that one!


I don't believe we have two good goalkeepers. We have one on short term loan and two unproven kids.


Defence is fine except at left back, where we only have Bennett. Arca is not a left back, neither is Hoyte (though he does his best).


We have no wingers. We generally play four central midfielders. Nothing wrong with that, but it does limit your options.


We have two strikers and one kid on loan.


That doesn't make a strong, deep squad for me.


I think we're ok at right back, centre back and definitely centre midfield.


Mowbray, his staff and team have done an incredible job so far but we'll have to be very lucky not to go through a period where our squad is stretched. I guess we'll see then if our cover is up to it. I hope you're right.

copyandpasteinho said:

I’m getting used to this copying and pasting nonsense…..


Has a Boro team playing in the second tier ever gone ten games undefeated at thestart of the season and not being promoted? Has a Boro team ever won its first four away games in a row and not being promoted? Do we have a bigger squad than in 1986?


We may be witnessing something special here, enjoy the ride….

Ian Gill said:

Interesting debate on the strength of the squad.


There are areas where we are less strong than others. We could do with another experienced left back and striker, a winger wouldnt go amiss.


But, hang on, wasnt their a cry that we should give kids a chance? That Strachan was useless bringing in experienced players, Gate gave away the kids or lost them because of mismanagement- that is one of mine but dont confuse people with facts.


And what would we do with a winger? Mogga is a lover of 4-3-3, how they fit into that formation? Where is the evidence that Mogga plays a wide man on both sides of the pitch?


The fact is that if we get decent numbers of games from our main players we will have a good season (stop bristling Vic, I am not having a go at Crockcliffe).


Being in the Championship leads on to another topic. Does Gibbo want promotion?


Interesting debate on Radio 5. Blackpool received £40m for one season in the top flight plus huge parachute payments. Can anyone give a coherent reason why a club chairman wouldnt want that, especially one who has bankrolled the club - I hear Richard warming up on the sideelines - even if it has been through his company.


Moving on to a general point about TV money - what effortless links. ManU got £60m from UK TV rights.


So what I hear you yawn? We are nown down the food chain but in the top flight there are collective bargaining rights which are much disliked in the EU and the Poison Dwarf at UEFA hates us as well.


The beacons of fair play aka Barca and Real get well over £100m per year from TV. Apparently they got 17 times the money from TV than the bottom club. Reason? Individual negotiating rights.


Whilst we rant and rave about money in the game we musnt get carried away. We dont have our trotters in the trough because of mismanagement, we had the money and threw it away. Remember all Strickens buys = two thirds of an Alves.


I dont love Sky or the money in the game but that is the world we live in, dont shoot or shout at the messenger

We can crow about the record run and its merits to the side’s current form, but my fear is that it could turn out to be a bit of a millstone.


Now, I wasn't at any of the games due to global positioning (or lack of it as the case may be) with the exception of the Coventry game during my Sabbatical back to the Boro, so I can only go on reports and the lads here.


So if I'm part of a team that's breaking all records and drawing 0-0 with ten minutes to go, do I hold on for the draw to extend that record further and get my name firmly etched in to the history books, or do I go for the three points?


The reports and blogs here suggest that the latter was the case, but when you get in to the mind set of being unbeaten, how long will it stay that way?


The old adage of drawing your away games and winning at home, or presently with the Boro quite the opposite, were thrown well and truly out of the window with the advent of three points for a win. Looking at the table with us unbeaten and lying second behind a team that has, twice, it makes me wonder.


Jarkko, if Craig Johnston's from Austria, does that mean that I have to invest in some tight, little leather pants and start slapping my thighs whilst yodelling??? I certainly hope not, I might get to like it!!!

Jarkko said:

Boss Tony Mowbray has been named on the shortlist for September's npower Manager of the Month award, while skipper Matthew Bates is among the Player of the Month nominations.


I think Mogga will still miss the award and it goes to a promoted team's manager, Southampton's Nigel Adkins. But I feel optimistic enough to say Mogga will get one in a month's time (!).


But I hope Bates will get the award. We have gone so many matches - 4 or 5 - without conceding a goal that a defender of our back four deserves the price.


And we are still undefeated in the league (all others have lost twice already).


But of course we won't receive two awards in succession after Marvin collected that the month before. So typically Boro, Bates will miss this one?


Up the Boro!

John Powls said:

copyandpasteinho -


We ripped into Reading late on with Hoyte off, Tony Mc at right wing back and Julio, Julio, Julio on the left.


When we were defending earlier, Hoyte was so poor that Mogga shifted him from left wing back to the right - but that only hobbled Tony Mc too without Hoyte improving at all, so he reverted them as the first half closed.


And that's just the Reading game. I can't recall - in all the times I've seen him play - Hoyte doing anything in defence or going forward that more than hinted on very limited occasions that he is capable of what Mogga claims him to be.

copyandpasteinho said:

John –


I’m not a huge fan of Hoyte myself, although I have to admit to a prejudice against ‘Arsenal lite’ players in general.


However I’m not Tony McMahon’s biggest fan either, I like him because he’s a Boro boy, he’s motivated, determined and committed which can go a long way. But I think he has limited ability, overall I would agree he is a better defender than Hoyte.


Ian –


You’re right we live in the world of SKY like it or not. We need to be in the Prem as soon as possible in order to secure the £40m plus the guaranteed five years of parachute payments if/when we’re relegated.


That amount of money can take you a long way if managed properly. Mogga appears to understand how to manage that money and I’m sure if the Chairman or COO knocks on his door and says ‘my mate the agent has found us a bloke in Holland who is scoring for fun and he’s only £12m plus £50k/week’, Mogga will tell them exactly where to go.

Chris from Beverley said:

I would be careful about dishing out too much stick to Justin Hoyte. Those that attend away games will know that a lot of his family members go to those games.


I wouldn't want to argue with any of them !


UTB

Ian Gill said:

Chris from Beverley


There is a topic for the international break. Which Boro player would you least like to mix it with? Past and present, families included.


Of the current crop Robbo is decidedly scary once he gets his dander up, Bennett seems to use him as a role model and could start a fight in an empty room. Emnes would be a pussy cat, big Mick would be a handful, Bailey looks quietly hard.


Of latter day players, Souness was downright nasty and hard.

jeffrey said:

So my question top you all is if the opportunity presented itself which ex-Boro boy would you like to see pull on Boro shirt once again to grace the Riverside.


My preference at this point would probably be Morrison, as he would slot straight into our 32311 or 442 systems at a drop of the hat


He can add an attacking threat, score goals and pass the ball really well. He is a better player than anyone we have on our books in that wide right position and would add yet another dimension to Tony Mowbrays squad.


However, those who know me know I would love to see many BORO boys back
Gracing the Riverside as was the intention of Gibson and Parnaby


Interesting debate about the squad strength.


(1) goalkeeper Steele is a very good keeper , Ripley a good kid but that’s it and that’s not enough as was shown pre season (Ikeme to the rescue)


(2) right back McMahan and Hoyte are both good players in this division


(3) left back Bennet is a very fine prospect however we don’t have adequate cover for him after we sent players out on loan who would cover only to balance the books


(4) Centre backs no problem there as we have four premier quality centre backs and plenty of cover elsewhere. I guess that is why Mowbray was willing to trade Bates for a much-needed striker. I bet he is very glad now that his Captain fantastic stayed to show us all his talent and marshal that back line.


(5) Centre midfield well we have plenty of choice there however; one wonders what will happen when Bailey is missing through injury or suspension. who covers him


(6) Left mid surely Arca if we play 442 the guy once fit is head and shoulders above most midfielders in this division and his passing wins games.


(7) right midfield Robson, he is tenacious and a winner a guy for the trenches although he clearly is a ball winner without the guile we need going forward


(8) Forwards we are so lucky to have two very good energetic forwards who scare the opposition to death with there pace and guile. However with little experienced cover only a good loan striker and two good kids we are thin on the ground up front which may come back to haunt us later in the season


We can move Williams, Robertson, and McMahon around the pitch with out a problem. However, we have been clinically exposed at left back on many occasions with Bennett adjusting to life without Taylor or missing through injury or suspension. Up front over the last few games particularly but on other occasions with tired legs and no cover we have fallen short. Then in wide positions many times already this season we have not had the qualities needed which again has cost us points.


It may be a coincidence but I noticed that the goals dried up when Williams was moved into the back four to cover for big Mick, but the contrast going forward was quite profound


I do hope that with Thomson and Arca coming back to full fitness. Williams’s creativity will not be as badly missed but it was noticeable that Bailey Robson and Haroun although extremely hard working and solid, were not as creative and do not retain the ball as well as when Williams was commanding the midfield.


He is a player who is comfortable in many positions however, he needs to be utilized where the team will get the greater points benefit from his game and not just use him as cover here or there.


In addition, Williams is the one player who understands that instantly we gain possession we up the tempo of the game and counter attack swiftly. He has a very good football brain very much like Woodgate, which is what, makes him look so comfortable. I remember the talk before the season was to give him his own position and let him blossom but that has not happened and the reason - a WEAK SQUAD.

Gutted!! said:

Very disappointed in The Evening Gazette running the Hoyte story one day and Bennett the next when both could have been printed on the same day in the same article. Just making the situation worse! You say let's get behind and support the team and you're adding flames to the fire...

never give up on boro said:

Chris from Beverley

yes I have seen Justin Hoytes family at the away games and i have also seen his Dad shaking his head at some of his poor play when he has had good possession and wasted it!!

Richard said:

Comments on comments about Justin Hoyte and other stuff:


My impression is that Hoyte is a "confidence" player who often lacks it, or momentarily loses it instead of keeping a cool head when final-ball creativity is demanded. He's not going to get any more of it if Mowbray, his present boss/ coach/ mentor, publicly says anything adverse about his innate skills.


He's coaching the guy in private, to get Hoyte to be the best he can be. So he's not about to undo the good work by emphasising his weaknesses in public. There can't be many better ways of disabling a person than his boss to publicly say he has reservations about him. Personally, I'd be disappointed in Mowbray - or any coach/ leader - if they did so.


The one justifiable exception is in being critical of public behaviours that are detrimental to the club, team or others and preferably, after personal consultation with the miscreant. (There are a few historical examples from up the road at the Barcodes - Carol, Barton, Bowyer, Dyer, Bramble, to name a few - and, closer to home, when Lee Cattermole's social activities seemed to be getting in the way of his Boro career.)


It's different for us, as supporters. We can criticise all we like - but our "relationship" with players is not anything like as intimate as that between the player and his boss. Fan opinion, viewed by players, generally, is less impactful on a daily basis than their boss's. Even those communicating with players via Twitter, of whom the vast majority will remain personally distanced from the player and more often than not "protected" by their "nommes de web".


However, if Hoyte is of a "celebrity" or perhaps insecure mindset and needs everyone to love him before he can perform, he may never progress further. He could be paralysed or distracted by fear of making mistakes in front of those he seeks to impress. In such circumstances, moment by important moment, maybe that's where his focus is, rather than on making the right decision on the field, or distributing the ball more effectively. Maybe he becomes too conscious of the crowd.


Part of Mowbray's job is to continuously challenge that and to coach any such tendencies out of him. Mowbray's not likely to be able to do that by "disrespecting" (don't you just hate that inner-city street-speak? - not that I'm stereo-typing of course!) him publicly.


Because there's a lull in the football action……….


…….a great big cheer for Karen Murphy, the Portsmouth landlady who took on the pernicious, socially-distorting and divisive, inflationary alliance of Murdoch and Scudamore - and won! Way to go girl! If only the rest of the population were as principled and had sets as big as your's - so to speak!!


Finally,…… RIP Steve Jobs. He delivered great products that people want and are obviously prepared to pay for, because they're good. Result. Everyone happy. Sorry he's gone, but his lessons should live on, if you get my drift?

BoroPhil said:

Hoyte is doing absolutely fine, he's no Cafu but he has played a full part in a record-breaking back line and he deserves as much credit as anyone else for that.

As for not showing any attacking tendencies, I can only go on what I saw in the last match I went to (Ipswich – missed Leicester as I was on hols), and in that game he produced the best chance of the match with a great cross from the byline which McDonald wastefully headed wide, and he also took on his man on the half-way line sprinted half the length of the pitch, cut inside and then unfortunately blazed over with his weaker foot – but he did excellently to get in the position in the first place.

So, attacking – good, bar his ability to go to pieces in the box. Defending – good, 5 clean sheets in a row speaks for itself. However, I do accept that Boro fans must have a boo-boy and Hoyte is unfortunately the latest target. Sad.

On the subject of the squad, I also think we are pretty strong. If kids are good enough, then it doesn’t matter whether they are kids, they are part of the squad.


At the moment we have Coyne, Arca, Martin, Hines, Martin, Thomson, Kink who aren’t featuring, all of them experienced players now. In addition to Smallwood, Luke Williams, Franks, who have all shown they are good enough at this level.

Jarkko said:

Jeffrey-


(5) Centre midfield well we have plenty of choice there however; one wonders what will happen when Bailey is missing through injury or suspension. who covers him?


I think I read Mogga pondering he might bring Thomson in and convert Bailey back to goal scoring midfielder he was at Charlton.


Otherwise a very interesting summary of our squad: Up the Boro!

Ian Gill said:

Richard -

Interesting call about Hoyte.


Listened to the commentary from Reading. They had someone square pegged and he did what Gary Gill was saying Hoyte should do and that was not to think about the cross but just wrap his foot around the ball.


It may not work all the time but thinking about every ball leads to being indecisive. How many times have we seen someone break through and get a one on one or two against one with plenty of time? Nine times out of ten they pass to the defender or goalie or blaze it wide.


Easy for me to say it sat at the keyboard.

Jarkko said:

Middlesbrough Manager Tony Mowbray has been named npower Championship Manager of the Month and defender Matthew Bates has been named npower Championship Player of the Month for September.


Two great wins - who said intentional Breaks are boring?


Best possible advertising for the Millwall game. Let's see if Boro can untypically win the Lions - and comfortably!


Player of the month for October? Rhys or Thommo - we need a hat-trick there.


Cup half full for me. Up the Boro.

Ian Gill said:

A quick theory about Captcha. The longer it takes to post the more likely it seems to reject the post.

This is quickly typed and posted, lets see if it gets through

Nigel Reeve said:

Richard –


Steve Jobs RIP, indeed a fantastic designer and visionary. I am a big Apple fan.


However, morally Steve Jobs was no different to Scudamore/SKY was he?


SKY attempt to do everything it can to ensure as many football fans as possible pay as much as possible to watch footie on TV, they try to control when and where SKY is shown and charge very high prices for pubs to show SKY. Clearly SKY make more from us all sitting in out own houses watching a sports channel we have subscribed to.


Steve Jobs did exactly the same thing at Apple, he developed products we all wanted and then made sure that in order to make those products work by buying songs off itunes or downloading apps etc that you have to go back to the Apple store, he did everything in his power to ensure that apple had minimal competition in order to be able to maintain very high prices. He did it very well, but morally Steve Jobs was no different to the Sky shareholders or Scudamore et al.

Andy R said:

Completely unrelated to football, but is it immoral to try to make your business as successful as possible?

Andy R said:

Speaking of business, if you could make a rule change (or two or three) to the way football is run what would it be?

ian Gill said:

Nigel Reeve -


From those who worked with Apple it appears Steve Jobs was not averse to bit of of size nine 'coaxing' in the office.


I am no lover of the Murdochs but as you say, are any business moguls that different?


Anyway, got interupted so lets try my Captcha theory.

Ian Gill said:

My captcha theory proved right, the slow post two 2 goes to get through.

Then I went to post saying that and it stopped me for too many posts in a short time

Matt said:

Highly disappointed this morning. The football league double is no cause cause for celebration as far as I can see. Emnes goals have dried up since he bagged last months award.


I wonder what odds the bookies would give me on Mogga losing his first game of the season against the lions, with Bates knocking in an oggy ? Typical Boro !

John Powls said:

The Manager and Player of the Month awards for Mogga and Batesy are well earned.


I take Matt's point about the well known 'curse of the award' phenomenon and how it's afflicted many in the past and M&S now.


I'm relying on the counter-charms - that now someone else has got an award, it'll free M&S from the spell. And that, because Boro are without a game this weekend the spell won't snare Mogga at all.


I'm going to avoid cracks in the pavement too, for good measure!

tim from sa said:

Great news on Mogga and Bates well deserved.
Iceing on the cake will be to down the Lions on Saturday.

Denis said:

I am not so much interested in the return of former players,they have gone and let them and ourselves get on with our futures.


What intrigues me is the point about how we see a game and how Mogga or any manager for that matter, views a football match.


The example of Hoyte is a good illustration of where we, the fans see Hoyte, hugging the touchline, fast, unable to cross a ball, dithers and dallies when he is in the box, unable to kick with his left foot.


Compare that reasonable observation with Mogga's professional eye, a player who is athletic, which I take to mean very fit, mobile, adaptable, can play anywhere in defence and carry out his instructions.Who'se right?


I have often wondered if Mogga, when on the touchline sees the game in a more geometric form than us supporters.


By that, is he looking at who is out of position, who is forward or sideways in position? As he said on radio we may play 3-5-2 but to the untrained eye its a player being fifteen yards forward or back.


I try my best to follow the shape and positoning of the team, the tactics employed and the last two home games were fascinating because of the good defensive play by both sides. I asked the question who is right, perhaps more accurately do we clearly understand what we are seeing in front of our eyes?

Ianj Gill said:

Following sundry police activities concerning a Motherwell match my colleague opioned the view 'what odds a Rooney sending off after 80 minutes'.

Spooky!

jeffrey wood said:

The debate still drags on over Hoyte and its obvious why. The guy is a natural athlete probably as fast as any player in the championship A Manager/Coach will always try to make a footballer of guys like Hoyte. And its not fair to say he does little or nothing,


He regally boxes down left wingers and its no coincidence that we do not have many problems down our right hand side with the combination of McMahon’s tenacity and
Hoytes athleticism however its true he struggles when he gets forward and rarely delivers
what he clearly has in his locker.


Wenger could not get the best out of him although he tried and tried and tried again and Mowbray is doing his best to get an exceptional talent to produce and rightly so. However, my guess is that changes are inevitable in midfield anyway as Thomson and Arca are fit again and will edge other players out. Therefore, Hoyte for sure will make way

Jarkko said:

Ian -


Rooney was shown a red card by referee Wolfgang Stark 17 minutes from time for kicking Montenegro defender Miodrag Dzudovic.


So not on 80th minute as your friend claimed! Up the Boro!

Ian Gill said:

Jarkko

But what a coincidence!

Grove Hill wallah said:

I'll give it one more try and then I'm afraid that's it for me.


We are in a great position right now, it is imperative that we get a couple of top class loanees in. It is always better to try and improve your squad from a position of strength.

Forever Dormo said:

I am still here. Fear not. It might take a while to come down from the results at the Rugby World Cup though. Thankfully there is no Boro football for a while...

Forever Dormo said:

Too many posts in too short a time. Yer jokin' aren't ye?

Ian Gill said:

A pretty miserable weekend to be a multisport English fan.


I am more bothered about the rugby union than the football team getting a draw against a country with the population of Leeds.


I dont know who is dafter, Tuilagi for jumping off a ferry or Rooney for his senseless kick. At least the unexpected abandon ship was not during a match.


Oddly there are some parallels between Rooney and Zidane. Both came from a background in areas with problems, both have great skills, both suffered from the red mist. Apart from Zidanes infamous head butt he was sent off a dozen times, nearly all were for red mist offences.


At least the football starts again soon, good to see that Robbo stayed on the bench for Scotland.

Andy R said:

Crikey international breaks are boring.


Tempted to post about the Boro lass on X Factor.

Allan in Bahrain said:

I hope to win the Jag this time?

Millwall will be the ultimate test I think. I think a no score draw would be a good result for us.

Powmill said:

I don’t know if any other of the Scottish-based contributors have noticed Falkirk’s young Moroccan striker Farid El Alagui. Currently top scorer in Scotland and has more than helped Falkirk into 4th place in the Scottish 1st Division and into the final of the Ramsden’s (yes, that Ramsden’s) Cup.


The tame Falkirk fan in my office tells me he is big, but has good movement off the ball, is athletic and is a sharp finisher and causes all sorts of problems in the centre of the opposition defence. He is also only on a deal until January as Falkirk can’t afford to give out a contract for more than a few months at a time. The local press have indicated he is interested in pursuing his career in England.


It might be worth seeing if Falkirk would loan him now, with a view to a permanent deal in January. They are absolutely penniless, so they might be easily persuaded for sensible money.

Ian Gill said:

Allan in Bahrain


Win the Jag?


It will be interesting to see how AV reconciles Captcha and the award of prizes for 100 posts. Does the system recognise attempts as opposed to successes, I suppose it is like hitting the bar in sport - it just doesnt count.


Powmill -


Like many down here, if he isnt at the old firm it is unlikely we will see him or even know of him.

Powmill said:

Ian, re "hitting the bar in sport".

Is that something the English Rugby Union players do of an evening while preparing for a world cup encounter?

Simon in the USA said:

Did I score. Am I number 100?

Just thought I would post left handed as I am currently in a cast after my op on my right wrist.

Gary Lineker eat your heart out.

RED ARMY.

Andy R said:

Come on fellas.


GHW can't hang around on the back post waiting for you lot to get the blog up to 99 posts all night.


And Len wants to get the curtains drawn.

Nigel Reeve said:

Blimey did we sneak up to 100 when I wasn't looking?

Forever Dormo said:

Of course there really would have been 200+ posts on here if it weren't for captcha capturing some of the posts, to send them into exile, never to be seen again.

Forever Dormo said:

If I lob one into the 6 yard box, will a certain Grove Hill ex-pat be there to poke it home?

Ian Gill said:

Powmill

Hitting the bar worked for England but not in performance terms. When asked about his favourite TV programme Tuilagi said 'Who paid the ferryman?

As for the 100, poor GHW and Len Masterman must be concerned.

Andy R said:

Let's give this a go then.


Bosh.

Andy R said:

Surely not hitting the post again?


**AV writes. That's in! Right I'm back now. I'll try and get this system sorted tomorrow and get things back as they were. The season has been going well. Don't these geeks know you don't change a winning team?

Grove Hill wallah said:

Captcha!? more like Gertcha!

Don't like this new system, it's a pain!

Jarkko said:

Some people are a bit clumsy. First GHw missed the ton and immediately after that Vic, too. I don't try if I don't have a message to tell (anyhow I wait until we reach 400 - that's my specialty).

Last season I would have expected a banana skin when Millwall is visiting after a good run. But not so sure now as the Mogga-managed Boro seem so different.

Yes, I will go for a 4-1 win for us. Up the Boro!

Smogonthetyne now in nunthorpe said:

Well what were you doing at 4.34pm 45 days ago? Well I puffed out my cheeks, thought ‘typical boro!’ no doubt some of you did the same or even type bugger.


That was over five games ago. That was over two months ago. We’ve gone a whole calendar month and more and not conceded a goal in the league. This is a ridiculously impressive achievement.


Now there have been some fortuitous reasons for this. Yes we are in the championship, and as such we have played a particularly limp Burnley, benefited from poor misses via Beckford’s head and Scotland’s wayward boot. But we held out, we held out in a tense final 15 minutes at Selhurst Park with a man down. We held out at home to Ipswich and Leicester, who in their next games won at West Ham and obliterated Derby respectively.


So have we been fortunate to play the poorest attacks in the chimpship? Well lets have a little look


Portsmouth average 1 away goals they got 2 at the Riverside
Leeds average 2 goals at Eland Rd but they got 0 against the Boro
Barnsley average 1 goal at Oakwell they got 1 against the Boro
Birmingham score on average 1.6 away goals, they got one at the Riverside
Coventry average away 0.4 goals and got one at the Riverside
Burnley average 1.8 goals at Turf Moor 0 against the Boro
Crystal Palace average 1.4 goals at Selhurst 0 against the Boro
Ipswich average 1 goal away, 0 at the Riverside
Leicester average 0.8 away goals 0 at the Riverside
Reading average 1 home goals 0 against the Boro


Only one goal conceded on our travels, please, please please let that run continue.


Millwall average 0.6 away goals and we concede on average 0.8 home goals, nil nil anyone?


P.S. Now I know that stats aren’t everyone’s cup of tea, but a recent survey in Newcastle showed that one in three Geordies are just as daft as the other two.

Andy R said:

Can't say I'm having many problems with this Captcha thingy? Has it gone now?


**AV writes: Yes. If it is putting frustarted punters off posting so I've back-heeled it and gone back to the old system. It means I can't allow auto-publication though or we will get swamped by spambots with awesome American accents trying to sell all you dudes extra inches, fake Gucci watches and meeting with hot Russian chicks.


Jarkko said:

Well, the injury list is the shortest I can remember in the past few seasons.


Steele played a practice game yesterday and if the internationals (McManus & Robson were unused subs yesterday) came back OK, we have ONLY Jonathan Franks out injured. Hines is back to training, too.


I think we are due to some good luck there. On the field we do our own luck and hope the good run continues on Saturday.


Smogon -


thanks for the stats. Made me smile. I'll enjoy the season after all the bad times we had before. We are entitled to that. Up the Boro!

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